God's Grace is the end of the Law : for the Born Again

[Behold]

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Its the Law that has spiritual dominion over all who are not a part of the Kingdom of God.
Once you are born again, you are "not under the law, but under GRACE".
"Grace" is the everlasting Mercy of God.

So, if you are not born again, into the KOG....Romans 14:17....then the law has dominion over you, which gives it the RIGHT to judge your unholiness as compared to God's Holiness.
= You are judged by the LAW, to be a SINNER, until you are saved by the blood of Jesus as the Grace of God, and become a born again Saint...no longer under the law, but "under Grace".
Thats the purpose of the law.
Its to reveal just how unholy we are, as compared to Holy God, so that by this revelation we can come to God on the Cross for help and receive "the Gift of Salvation" which is eternal Redemption from our sin and from the "curse of the law."
"Christ came to deliver us from the curse of the Law".

"Christ has redeemed you from the CURSE of THE LAW"....if you are born again.

See God's REMEDY ?

Come to the Cross, receive forgiveness for all your sin, and enter the KOG...as born again by the Holy Spirit.... Not by water, but "by my Spirit sayeth the LORD". And God is that Spirit..
2 Corinthians 3:17
And if you have not the Spirit of God in you, then you are "none of His".
Romans 8:9-11.

How do you get there from here??

Jesus said..."you must be born again". Spiritually. And that means your spirit has to be born again, into spiritual UNION with God, as 'ONE with God" 'In Christ".

Your NT tells you that when you come to Christ, BELIEVING... after hearing the Gospel of the Grace of God, as "faith comes by hearing" "the preaching of the Cross".., then GOD delivers you (born again) out of the dominion of the Law by doing this..
= "Translated from Darkness....>TO LIGHT".
You now become...>"not under the law...but under Grace", having entered the Kingdom of God.
This is why the born again are "seated in Heavenly places" right now.

Reader....Its the rule of Grace that is the law of the Kingdom Of God.
What is grace?
Its God's eternal love and mercy ...Its this....>"God first loved you".
ITs this..>"For God so loved the world that He GAVE" "the Gift of Salvation".. "to all who will come" to Jesus, BELIEVING.

See that?
That is the born again Spirit becoming a """New Creation"" IN CHRIST......and this is the eternal fruit of God's Grace.
The born again are the heritage of the Lord, and the Sons of God.
THe born again are "heirs of God", and "joint heirs with Jesus".

And what is Christ?
He is, The Living Word made Flesh... The Lord and Savior and Redeemer.....and He is "The LIGHT of the World"....and the KOG is a Kingdom of Light....."Light"= is holiness, righteousness, truth... as this is God as Himself....who exists in and AS that Light.
1 John 1:5

In Genesis you find... God , who through Jesus the pre-incarnate Word....said..>Let there be LIGHT."
And that was not just referring to creating the absence of Darkness , but also the appearing of Light INTO the Darkness that shines "out of the Darkness".
This... 2 Corinthians 4:6
Jesus IS The Light.

So, when you are born again SPIRITUALLY, you become a "child of the LIGHT".....born again INTO God's Spirit....and are now "seated in Heavenly places in Christ'.
See that? That is a born again Child of the Light, ALREADY existing with GOD and CHRIST..as "ONE">. John 17:23
The born again are not waiting for Eternal Life.
Eternal life is now living inside them, as they have become "The temple of the Holy Spirit"..."ONE with God". "a New Spiritual Creation"..."in Christ".

Reader........The only way to get there is to be born again....and this is why Jesus said in John 14:6...>"i am THE WAY".......as He is THE LIGHT.

When you are born again, Jesus comes to live in you...."Christ in you, the hope of Glory"....He is Joined to your Spirit when you are born again.... and you become One with Him who is your Eternal LIFE.

The Truth and the analogy the NT gives regarding Spiritual Union with God and Christ is....>"BRIDE of Christ"...see that?
And how do you become a Bride? = You get married.
And what is God's definition of marriage....>"two become ONE FLESH"... See that?....That is JOINED... So that is why you are to "flee fornication", so that you do not become ONE FLESH with a person, as that is a spiritual UNION situation that is so much much more than just the fornication.
So, with God and Christ, when you are born again, you become ONE WITH GOD.
That is a Spiritual BRIDE becoming one with her Spiritual Husband.
This is Christ Jesus THE LORD joining Himself to His "Body of Christ", SPIRITUALLY.
His Spirit, in union with your Spirit = "ONE WITH GOD", "in Christ".
See that?
That is Christ the GROOM, joined to his BODY, His BRIDE....His Church....= ALL the born again.

Its like this Reader.....Christ is not coming back to marry His BRiDE.
He is coming back for his Bride He has already married, = Spiritually.
This is all the BORN AGAIN.

 

[GEN2REV]

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Its the Law that has spiritual dominion over all who are not a part of the Kingdom of God.
Once you are born again, you are "not under the law, but under GRACE".
"Grace" is the everlasting Mercy of God.

So, if you are not born again, into the KOG....Romans 14:17....then the law has dominion over you, which gives it the RIGHT to judge your unholiness as compared to God's Holiness.
= You are judged by the LAW, to be a SINNER, until you are saved by the blood of Jesus as the Grace of God, and become a born again Saint...no longer under the law, but "under Grace".
Thats the purpose of the law.
Its to reveal just how unholy we are, as compared to Holy God, so that by this revelation we can come to God on the Cross for help and receive "the Gift of Salvation" which is eternal Redemption from our sin and from the "curse of the law."
"Christ came to deliver us from the curse of the Law".

"Christ has redeemed you from the CURSE of THE LAW"....if you are born again.

See God's REMEDY ?

Come to the Cross, receive forgiveness for all your sin, and enter the KOG...as born again by the Holy Spirit.... Not by water, but "by my Spirit sayeth the LORD". And God is that Spirit..
2 Corinthians 3:17
And if you have not the Spirit of God in you, then you are "none of His".
Romans 8:9-11.

How do you get there from here??

Jesus said..."you must be born again". Spiritually. And that means your spirit has to be born again, into spiritual UNION with God, as 'ONE with God" 'In Christ".

Your NT tells you that when you come to Christ, BELIEVING... after hearing the Gospel of the Grace of God, as "faith comes by hearing" "the preaching of the Cross".., then GOD delivers you (born again) out of the dominion of the Law by doing this..
= "Translated from Darkness....>TO LIGHT".
You now become...>"not under the law...but under Grace", having entered the Kingdom of God.
This is why the born again are "seated in Heavenly places" right now.

Reader....Its the rule of Grace that is the law of the Kingdom Of God.
What is grace?
Its God's eternal love and mercy ...Its this....>"God first loved you".
ITs this..>"For God so loved the world that He GAVE" "the Gift of Salvation".. "to all who will come" to Jesus, BELIEVING.

See that?
That is the born again Spirit becoming a """New Creation"" IN CHRIST......and this is the eternal fruit of God's Grace.
The born again are the heritage of the Lord, and the Sons of God.
THe born again are "heirs of God", and "joint heirs with Jesus".

And what is Christ?
He is, The Living Word made Flesh... The Lord and Savior and Redeemer.....and He is "The LIGHT of the World"....and the KOG is a Kingdom of Light....."Light"= is holiness, righteousness, truth... as this is God as Himself....who exists in and AS that Light.
1 John 1:5

In Genesis you find... God , who through Jesus the pre-incarnate Word....said..>Let there be LIGHT."
And that was not just referring to creating the absence of Darkness , but also the appearing of Light INTO the Darkness that shines "out of the Darkness".
This... 2 Corinthians 4:6
Jesus IS The Light.

So, when you are born again SPIRITUALLY, you become a "child of the LIGHT".....born again INTO God's Spirit....and are now "seated in Heavenly places in Christ'.
See that? That is a born again Child of the Light, ALREADY existing with GOD and CHRIST..as "ONE">. John 17:23
The born again are not waiting for Eternal Life.
Eternal life is now living inside them, as they have become "The temple of the Holy Spirit"..."ONE with God". "a New Spiritual Creation"..."in Christ".

Reader........The only way to get there is to be born again....and this is why Jesus said in John 14:6...>"i am THE WAY".......as He is THE LIGHT.

When you are born again, Jesus comes to live in you...."Christ in you, the hope of Glory"....He is Joined to your Spirit when you are born again.... and you become One with Him who is your Eternal LIFE.

The Truth and the analogy the NT gives regarding Spiritual Union with God and Christ is....>"BRIDE of Christ"...see that?
And how do you become a Bride? = You get married.
And what is God's definition of marriage....>"two become ONE FLESH"... See that?....That is JOINED... So that is why you are to "flee fornication", so that you do not become ONE FLESH with a person, as that is a spiritual UNION situation that is so much much more than just the fornication.
So, with God and Christ, when you are born again, you become ONE WITH GOD.
That is a Spiritual BRIDE becoming one with her Spiritual Husband.
This is Christ Jesus THE LORD joining Himself to His "Body of Christ", SPIRITUALLY.
His Spirit, in union with your Spirit = "ONE WITH GOD", "in Christ".
See that?
That is Christ the GROOM, joined to his BODY, His BRIDE....His Church....= ALL the born again.

Its like this Reader.....Christ is not coming back to marry His BRiDE.
He is coming back for his Bride He has already married, = Spiritually.
This is all the BORN AGAIN.

So all sin has been completely done away with for Christians?

That IS good news!

 

[Behold]

So all sin has been completely done away with for Christians?

That IS good news!

1 Peter 2:24 .... explains that God as Christ on the Cross, has taken the sin of the world upon Himself and DIED for them all.

This is how God resolves our sin issue.
Jesus is a one time eternal sacrifice for our sin.

Sin, is what separated Adam, from God's Spirit, So, the 2nd Adam became a man, and lived a sinless life, and on the Cross bore the sin of the world.
He took them all, upon Himself, and died for them.

Enter : The Gospel of the Grace of God., as the explanation, which i just gave you. This is what Paul called "MY Gospel".

So, this gospel is to be preached to the world, and when a person understands it, because the Holy Spirit has opened their heart... and they want this forgiveness,
= this is "faith comes by HEARING", what i just told YOU, that God has done for us.... This GIVING of Christ for the sin of the world is : John 3:16

Im an evangelist/teacher, and the message that i give, that i preach, teach, share, witness, is what i just told you.
You'll see it reflected in my many many Threads here and thousands of posts.
Ive share this Gospel of God's Grace on both sides of this planet.

And the way we, the born again are to understand it, is one more verse., and if you have followed what i explained, then this verse will make perfect sense to you...

This : 2 Corinthians 5:18. """"GOD WAS IN CHRIST, = reconciling the world unto himself, (on the Cross).. not imputing their trespasses (sin) unto them; and hath committed unto US : the word of reconciliation.""

See that? Notice "the word of reconciliation"... And the word of reconciliation is....> ""God has done this for you, you can be forgiven all your sin through Christ on the Cross.... So hear this GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD, and believe it, and call on the name of The Lord, and be saved".

A minister and a person who is ministering the forgiveness of God, to an unbeliever, is engaged IN "the ministry of reconciliation".

Its simple..."believe on JESUS", Give God your faith, and be RECONCILED TO GOD< based on what Jesus has done for you on The Cross..
God will accept your faith to reconcile you to Himself, as "your faith is counted as Righteousness" by God.

When you take Christ into your heart, God takes you into His eternal family as a SON//Daughter of God.

See that?
That is the GOSPEL of the GRACE....OF God.
That is the "GIFT of Salvation"

 

[GEN2REV]

1 Peter 2:24 .... explains that God as Christ on the Cross, has taken the sin of the world upon Himself and DIED for them all.

This is how God resolves our sin issue.
Jesus is a one time eternal sacrifice for our sin.

Sin, is what separated Adam, from God's Spirit, So, the 2nd Adam became a man, and lived a sinless life, and on the Cross bore the sin of the world.
He took them all, upon Himself, and died for them.

Enter : The Gospel of the Grace of God., as the explanation, which i just gave you. This is what Paul called "MY Gospel".

So, this gospel is to be preached to the world, and when a person understands it, because the Holy Spirit has opened their heart... and they want this forgiveness,
= this is "faith comes by HEARING", what i just told YOU, that God has done for us.... This GIVING of Christ for the sin of the world is : John 3:16

Im an evangelist/teacher, and the message that i give, that i preach, teach, share, witness, is what i just told you.
You'll see it reflected in my many many Threads here and thousands of posts.
Ive share this Gospel of God's Grace on both sides of this planet.

And the way we, the born again are to understand it, is one more verse., and if you have followed what i explained, then this verse will make perfect sense to you...

This : 2 Corinthians 5:18. """"GOD WAS IN CHRIST, = reconciling the world unto himself, (on the Cross).. not imputing their trespasses (sin) unto them; and hath committed unto US : the word of reconciliation.""

See that? Notice "the word of reconciliation"... And the word of reconciliation is....> ""God has done this for you, you can be forgiven all your sin through Christ on the Cross.... So hear this GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD, and believe it, and call on the name of The Lord, and be saved".

A minister and a person who is ministering the forgiveness of God, to an unbeliever, is engaged IN "the ministry of reconciliation".

Its simple..."believe on JESUS", Give God your faith, and be RECONCILED TO GOD< based on what Jesus has done for you on The Cross..
God will accept your faith to reconcile you to Himself, as "your faith is counted as Righteousness" by God.

When you take Christ into your heart, God takes you into His eternal family as a SON//Daughter of God.

See that?
That is the GOSPEL of the GRACE....OF God.
That is the "GIFT of Salvation"

That all sounds great, but it once again begs the question:

Can people still sin today?

Is SIN still possible today?

I still have not gotten an answer from you on this in multiple threads.

Why is that?

It's a simple question. Either they can or they can't.

Which is it?

 

[stephen64]

Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness for everyone who believeth Rom10:4

 

[GEN2REV]

Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness for everyone who believeth Rom10:4

If it were even remotely possible for God's 10 Commandments to be abolished, Christ would not have had to die to erase the sins of God's people.

Sin = the breaking of the 10 Commandments (FACT)
God's Word = can never be broken - especially those spoken aloud in this world (FACT)

Therefore, if it were possible for God to simply do away with His Laws that He wrote IN STONE, there would literally have been NO NEED whatsoever for Jesus to incarnate and die as the most significant SIN-sacrifice in the history of Creation.

He DID have to do that because the Law CANNOT be repealed which means, due specifically to that FACT, that SIN is still a factor.

The 10 Commandments are now STILL valid and will be so until the end of this world.

100% Biblical FACT.

 

[Robert Gwin]

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Its the Law that has spiritual dominion over all who are not a part of the Kingdom of God.
Once you are born again, you are "not under the law, but under GRACE".
"Grace" is the everlasting Mercy of God.

So, if you are not born again, into the KOG....Romans 14:17....then the law has dominion over you, which gives it the RIGHT to judge your unholiness as compared to God's Holiness.
= You are judged by the LAW, to be a SINNER, until you are saved by the blood of Jesus as the Grace of God, and become a born again Saint...no longer under the law, but "under Grace".
Thats the purpose of the law.
Its to reveal just how unholy we are, as compared to Holy God, so that by this revelation we can come to God on the Cross for help and receive "the Gift of Salvation" which is eternal Redemption from our sin and from the "curse of the law."
"Christ came to deliver us from the curse of the Law".

"Christ has redeemed you from the CURSE of THE LAW"....if you are born again.

See God's REMEDY ?

Come to the Cross, receive forgiveness for all your sin, and enter the KOG...as born again by the Holy Spirit.... Not by water, but "by my Spirit sayeth the LORD". And God is that Spirit..
2 Corinthians 3:17
And if you have not the Spirit of God in you, then you are "none of His".
Romans 8:9-11.

How do you get there from here??

Jesus said..."you must be born again". Spiritually. And that means your spirit has to be born again, into spiritual UNION with God, as 'ONE with God" 'In Christ".

Your NT tells you that when you come to Christ, BELIEVING... after hearing the Gospel of the Grace of God, as "faith comes by hearing" "the preaching of the Cross".., then GOD delivers you (born again) out of the dominion of the Law by doing this..
= "Translated from Darkness....>TO LIGHT".
You now become...>"not under the law...but under Grace", having entered the Kingdom of God.
This is why the born again are "seated in Heavenly places" right now.

Reader....Its the rule of Grace that is the law of the Kingdom Of God.
What is grace?
Its God's eternal love and mercy ...Its this....>"God first loved you".
ITs this..>"For God so loved the world that He GAVE" "the Gift of Salvation".. "to all who will come" to Jesus, BELIEVING.

See that?
That is the born again Spirit becoming a """New Creation"" IN CHRIST......and this is the eternal fruit of God's Grace.
The born again are the heritage of the Lord, and the Sons of God.
THe born again are "heirs of God", and "joint heirs with Jesus".

And what is Christ?
He is, The Living Word made Flesh... The Lord and Savior and Redeemer.....and He is "The LIGHT of the World"....and the KOG is a Kingdom of Light....."Light"= is holiness, righteousness, truth... as this is God as Himself....who exists in and AS that Light.
1 John 1:5

In Genesis you find... God , who through Jesus the pre-incarnate Word....said..>Let there be LIGHT."
And that was not just referring to creating the absence of Darkness , but also the appearing of Light INTO the Darkness that shines "out of the Darkness".
This... 2 Corinthians 4:6
Jesus IS The Light.

So, when you are born again SPIRITUALLY, you become a "child of the LIGHT".....born again INTO God's Spirit....and are now "seated in Heavenly places in Christ'.
See that? That is a born again Child of the Light, ALREADY existing with GOD and CHRIST..as "ONE">. John 17:23
The born again are not waiting for Eternal Life.
Eternal life is now living inside them, as they have become "The temple of the Holy Spirit"..."ONE with God". "a New Spiritual Creation"..."in Christ".

Reader........The only way to get there is to be born again....and this is why Jesus said in John 14:6...>"i am THE WAY".......as He is THE LIGHT.

When you are born again, Jesus comes to live in you...."Christ in you, the hope of Glory"....He is Joined to your Spirit when you are born again.... and you become One with Him who is your Eternal LIFE.

The Truth and the analogy the NT gives regarding Spiritual Union with God and Christ is....>"BRIDE of Christ"...see that?
And how do you become a Bride? = You get married.
And what is God's definition of marriage....>"two become ONE FLESH"... See that?....That is JOINED... So that is why you are to "flee fornication", so that you do not become ONE FLESH with a person, as that is a spiritual UNION situation that is so much much more than just the fornication.
So, with God and Christ, when you are born again, you become ONE WITH GOD.
That is a Spiritual BRIDE becoming one with her Spiritual Husband.
This is Christ Jesus THE LORD joining Himself to His "Body of Christ", SPIRITUALLY.
His Spirit, in union with your Spirit = "ONE WITH GOD", "in Christ".
See that?
That is Christ the GROOM, joined to his BODY, His BRIDE....His Church....= ALL the born again.

Its like this Reader.....Christ is not coming back to marry His BRiDE.
He is coming back for his Bride He has already married, = Spiritually.
This is all the BORN AGAIN.

What is born again Be?

 

[GEN2REV]

Post #4 still awaiting a response.

 

[Behold]

That all sounds great, but it once again begs the question:

Can people still sin today?
Is SIN still possible today?

Thanx for the question.

I will try not to be too detailed here, as this is meat, and not milk, and its something that all believers have to learn, but, you have to spiritually process it, as this is revelation im going to share, and so, it has to be discerned as well as understood.

Here we go....

"sin" does not change.
God does not change.
Being born again does change everything, for the person.
What changes immediately IS = God's eternal perspective of the person who has become born again, and, the other things that change ::

1.) Under the Law

vs :

2.) Under Grace

Reader....When you are born again, Jesus has BECOME your sin bearer., and you have become, SPIRITUALLY, "the Righteousness of God in Christ".
This is the born again Spirit that Has become the SON/Daughter of God.
Obviously this is not your BODY, as your body is going to the Grave. And its not your mind as your mind has to be renewed.
So, the "born again part" that is the "SON/Daughter of God", is the BORN again SPIRIT.
See, When Adam fell, it was his SPIRIT that became separated from God.... not his Body.
SALVATION Through the CROSS<... is God bringing your spirit back into His SPIRIT, which is Himself...as ""God is A Spirit", by being Born again into the Spirit of God, by the Spirit of God.
See that, reader? That is SPIRITUAL UNION with God.
That is the BORN AGAIN Part becoming in spiritual union with God.......Its not your body or mind.. Its your SPIRIT, having become "ONE with God" and "God is A Spirit".

Now, BORN AGAIN = this is the part of you that is sinless, and kept sinless, as obviously there is no Sin in God, and if you're In God, "one with God", "In Christ", there is no SIN there where you EXIST as a SON/Daughter of God.

What about your body?
Your body is cursed, and will die.
Your Mind is TROUBLE, unless you learn to understand what i just showed you by FAITH, so that you understand the Distinction that God makes about the born again, which is, He only sees your Born again Spirit, as the REAL YOU, as this is now become a part of His Spirit., when you are born again.

Next..

The Born again... are YOU???? , If so you are not longer under the Law, as """Christ is the end of the Law"", for your righteousness.
He is Your Righteousness, and Christ is IN YOU when you are born again, and you remain spiritually connected to Christ's Righteousness, by being "IN CHRIST".. and the fact that God did this for you, is "The GIFT of Righteousness".

Now, when you read Romans 4:8.. Paul teaches us that God does not charge SIN to the born again.
It does not say your behavior will be perfect.
Why does God not charge SIN to the born again? Its because the part of you that is a born again Son, exists IN GOD, Spiritually, forever.
And, its because CHRIST has already been charged with your sin, so.... God will not charge you also.
God does not "double Judge". He does not Judge Jesus to DEATH for your sin on the Cross, then Judge you for them also, in Eternity, after you die.
This is why you meet God as your FATHER, and not as your Judge.

Now....What is "sin" for the born again, who are not defined any longer by the LAW, that use to have dominion over them, before they were born again, and could judge them as a sinner.
Its all on Christ. That's "what it has become"... Jesus is your SIN BEARER. And because this has happened, the Law does not have any dominion over the Born again, as they exist, as born again, in the Kingdom of God and there is no Moses Law found there.
Moses law is for SINNERS, down here on earth, Its #1 reason to exist is to show them that they need to be SAVED, and become a part of God's Spiritual Family.
The law and commandments are designed as a lifestyle boundary as their 2nd reason to exist. Their first and main reason to exist is to show you that you are a sinner, needing to be forgiven, which you find as the Cross of Christ...... = Your redemption.

The born again now exist as. " You are not under the Law, but under GRACE".....and GRACE is the "law" of the Kingdom of God.

So, unbelievers who are "under the law" are judged by the law and defined as SINNERS.

THE BORN AGAIN, are not under the law, "But under Grace", and they are Only defined as a Son/Daughter of God.

Now, Gen2rev, you are trying to understand if im teaching "sinless perfection", but that is not a question you can ask and expect to understand the answer, as, to understand the sinlessness of a born again spirit, that exists eternally as "one with God" "In Christ" you have to understand what i just taught you. And because there are few Pauline Theologists left on this earth, you wont be finding this information in your church or in your commentaries, and that explains why i write posts and Threads, like they are a commentary.

Finally, or till your next question GEN2REV, that will be the same one, probably..... as you are trying to play "gotcha" instead of learning precious NT understanding that is so very rarely taught, anymore......as there are not many like me left.

Look carefully,
The born again are not under the law, nor are they defined by the law., as "Christ is the end of the law" for the Born again...which means God through Christ has made the born again, "the righteousness of God in Christ". and that is a GIFT, that is strictly related to being born again.
So, is there any "sin" in "the righteousness of God, in Christ" that is BECOME the Born again, Spirit?
No there is not., but that is a STATUS, as a Son of God, vs, being the idea of perfect behavior that can never make a mistake, regarding a body and a mind that are not born again.

 

[GEN2REV]

I will try not to be too detailed here, as this is meat, and not milk, and its something that all believers have to learn, but, you have to spiritually process it, as this is revelation im going to share, and so, it has to be discerned as well as understood.

"sin" does not change.
God does not change.
Being born again does change everything, for the person.
What changes immediately IS = God's eternal perspective of the person who has become born again

I would say this concept is milk, not meat.

What you're saying is that Sin is still possible, but when 'born agains' sin, God doesn't count it against them.

John disagrees.

He tells us that obeying the Commandments is prerequisite for being right with God. And it is the breaking of the Commandments that constitutes sin.
1 John 2:3
1 John 3:4

Jesus is the Truth John 14:6 and John says that the Truth is not in you if you don't follow the Commandments.
1 John 2:4

John says that God's love is perfected in those who keep the 10 Commandments.
1 John 2:5

And John also says that we need to keep all 10 of the Commandments, just as Jesus did, in order to meet these requirements as Christians.
1 John 2:6
John 15:10

 

[Behold]

I would say this concept is milk, not meat.

Your response to the Spiritual , which is the explanation of becoming "one with God" and the eternal effects,..
Is that you went directly to..."here is how you work your way into heaven".
That's legalism that rejects the Cross of Christ.
You are twisting John's verses to spit on the Cross of Christ.
Bad idea.

You're a Legalist, self defined by your command keeping obsession, who can't understand the Cross, or what it means to be born again, nor could you write a Thread about it that was even related to how a person becomes "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
That's not an insult. That is in fact, a fair warning, as you are needing the work of Grace as your redemption.
See, all you have is...."over here is a verse about commandments we have to Keep".

As i said.
You have to understand the spiritual, based on being there.

"you must be born again", GEN2REV, and trying to keep commandments, wont save you.

But i appreciate the post from you, which allowed me to show the students, the sincere, more.
Thats the good that rises out of the bad that you always try to bring here.

 

[GEN2REV]

you went directly to..."here is how you work your way into heaven".

No, not me. That wasn't even implied in my post.

That's legalism that rejects the Cross of Christ.

I didn't post any Legalism.

You are twisting John's verses to spit on the Cross of Christ.

By showing where Scripture says we need to obey God? That's a funny way of looking at things.

Must be that 'mystical' eyesight you were talking about.

You're a Legalist,

Is God a Legalist?

Is John a Legalist?

Is Jesus a Legalist?

I'm willing to bet there's something about our need to keep the Commandments as Christians in the majority of the 66 books of the Bible. Does that make the Bible a book of Legalism?

You're confused and your students are being led into a ditch if they buy what you're selling.

Not an insult, just a fact based on your doctrine not aligning with God's Word in the least.

It's good for them to see what kind of teachers not to follow.

 

[Behold]

I didn't post any Legalism.

Im showing you God as The Christ on THE Cross, = as your Holiness, eternal life, and your Sonship in the KOG.

You are posting to me, "commandment keeping" "trying to keep commandments to go to heaven", Legalism.


Believe it.

 

[GEN2REV]

You are posting to me, "commandment keeping" "trying to keep commandments to go to heaven", Legalism.

No.

You're making that claim, but it's found nowhere in my posts.

 

[Behold]

No.

You're making that claim, but it's found nowhere in my posts.

You need to be honest.

Here is your quote... """He tells us that obeying the Commandments is prerequisite for being right with God.""""

Do you see that in your quote you stated "OBEYING THE COMMANDMENTS"...

So, dont lie again, or i'll keep quoting your lies.

Be HONEST, GEN2REV, as it'll be something new for you to try on this Forum.

 

[GEN2REV]

Do you see that in your quote you stated "OBEYING THE COMMANDMENTS"...

So, dont lie again, or i'll keep quoting your lies.

Be HONEST, GEN2REV, as it'll be something new for you to try on this Forum.

Yeah, of course I stated "obeying the Commandments."

That is not legalism.

Obeying God is what we are told to do from Genesis to Revelation.

And I quoted Scripture from John to make my case as well.

Therefore it's not me you have a problem with. It's God and His Word.

I'd get that straightened out in short order if I were you.

 

[Behold]

Yeah, of course I stated "obeying the Commandments."

Therefore it's not me you have a problem with. It's God and His Word.

Lets get the focus back on you., GEN2REV, where it belongs.
You wrote that commandment keeping, is how to be righteous.
Then you said you didn't write this, after i pointed it out, as your LEGALISM.
So, i QUOTED YOU.

Now you say i have a "problem with God and His word".

But that's not the case.
The issue is, you are just not being honest, in my Thread.

Do better.

 

[GEN2REV]

Lets get the focus back on you.

Uhh ... once again, you seem to really savor the taste of your foot.

Behold, the arrogance of the one man who knows so much about Scripture that He uses an image of Christ teaching the masses!

Behold, the sermon-slinger who rejects any and all comments to the contrary of his sacred message!

Behold, the boasting bonanza of the one true bible-teacher who teaches doctrine that exists exactly nowhere in the Holy Bible!

Behold, for you have seen God if you have seen ... BEHOLD!!!

 

[Behold]

Uhh ... once again, you seem to really savor the taste of your foot.

I pointed out, your dishonestly, by quoting you.
So, i understand you'll do anything now, to run from it.
My Advice?
Just be honest.

 

[Behold]

Reader,

Its not by works, (commandment keeping, lifestyle, or jumping in the baptismal) that causes God to accept you and keep you.
But rather its by God offering what HE will accept, to accept you is why he saves you and keeps you saved..... and you can't do that for yourself.
God only accepts what HE OFFERS to accept you.
And what is this OFFER, This GIFT of God ? ? ?

= The CROSS of CHRIST