What is with people wanting to dodge the subject of this thread? Why the attempt to distract?
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That is a mitigating factor. A single rogue postal worker could disenfranchise hundreds of voters. The poll workers don't have un-attended access to your ballot at the polls, yet postal workers are trusted to not commit election and mail fraud.
A prudent measure would be to give every ballot a number, and give people the ability to check that their vote is recorded. If it isn't, and there is a pattern with other voters, it could warrant investigation. A real threat of being caught could make people think twice about breaking the law.
I can't say it's true for all states, but there are some protections now in several states in case your ballot gets lost or you forget and mail it too late. you can go online to check if your numbered ballot was received. If it wasn't, you can go vote in person; and if the election board gets your mailed in ballot later, they discard it.
Election fraud is relatively rare. There isn't a big incentive to commit it. Few people are willing to risk jail or a fine just to cast an extra vote. If a postal worker threw out hundreds of ballots, he probably wouldn't be accomplishing much since he'd be discarding ballots for the candidate he liked as well as the opponent. It wouldn't worth it to risk losing his job, going to jail and getting a hefty fine. Even if he did, people in some states could still see their votes hadn't been received (assuming they mailed them in early enough) and they could still vote.
Maybe you could answer that Question when a Thread IS About Biden and You participate in making comments about Trump.
Why the attempt to Distract?
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Brakelite
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Biden's record with regards his attitude toward the black community isn't impeccable either,,, even worse the Trump.
If you bring up the subject of dementia, for example, you can hardly complain because people think of Trump. A guy who thinks George Washington seized all the airports, and that it's a good idea to inject yourself with disinfectant, is very clearly losing it.
You're thinking of Trump. He was the one who praised his pedophile pal for liking his girls "on the younger side", and who was sued by a girl who reported him for raping her when she was 13.
And there's this...
Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘first victim’ was introduced to Donald Trump when she was 14: suit
A woman who says she was Jeffrey Epstein’s first known victim claims in a new lawsuit that the multimillionaire sex offender introduced her to Donald Trump when she was 14, saying “This is a good one, right?"
Trump, according to the suit against Epstein’s estate, “smiled and nodded in agreement.” The woman filed the lawsuit Friday in Manhattan Federal Court under the pseudonym Jane Doe.
Trump and Epstein “both chuckled and Doe felt uncomfortable, but, at the time, was too young to understand why,” the lawsuit reads. The encounter happened in the mid-90s at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Florida resort, court docs said.
Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘first victim’ was introduced to Donald Trump when she was 14: suit
As you have seen, Biden criticized Trump for shutting down our pandemic unit, just months before COVID-19 caught us unprepared. As you also know, Biden came up with an effective plan and encouraged Trump to do it. If Trump had taken Biden's plan and implemented it, we would be out of the pandemic by now.
It seems you're attacking from a very exposed position.
And of course, Trump partisans would be wise to be very quiet when the issue of lying comes up...
Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data
Rates of interpersonal deception — the lies I tell you and you tell me — have been remarkably stable in deception research over time. But, as others suggested, something is unusual about President Trump. His rate of deception has increased since taking office.
As of early April, Trump has told 23.3 lies per day in 2020, a 0.5-lie increase since 2019. What’s more, Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US — another 0.5-lie increase. Even during a pandemic, when the public needs to trust and rely on him the most, deception remains a core part of the president’s playbook.
What’s unusual about Trump is not just how often he lies, but what he lies about and where he communicates his lies most often.
Recently, journalists have taken measures to curb the spread of Trump’s lies and harmful recommendations to the public. Some news outlets, for example, have stopped airing his press briefings and others are limiting their coverage of him.
The problem here is that mainstream media coverage of President Trump is a relatively constrained avenue for his lies. Tweets, on the other hand, have speed and scale: they travel fast and are distributed globally. They also leave a record, allowing lies to remain public and therefore, in competition with truths. Even correcting falsehoods may not help, given political divisions among us and evidence suggesting that warnings about false claims can backfire.
Trump’s lies are problematic because they force us to question our institutions and the value of information. Their consequences might also bleed into our everyday meaningful relationships. Our trust in government, media, and other institutions remain quite low, but we still tend to trust one another.
Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data
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There is more than Epstein. What about George Nader?
How did a convicted criminal and serial paedophile come to be one of the main points of contact between President Donald Trump's inner circle and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed (MBZ) of Abu Dhabi?
As far back as the Reagan era, George Nader was attempting to make himself indispensable to successive US administrations by offering back-channel lines of communication with figures in the Middle East who might otherwise remain out of reach.
In recent years, as a senior political adviser to the crown prince, Nader has been helping MBZ in his dealings with both Moscow and Washington, and has been key to the establishment of a new alliance between the Trump administration, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
But Nader has repeatedly been caught in possession of child pornography and has served a prison sentence for the abuse of young boys.
In June, he appeared in court yet again, charged with possessing pornography showing boys – some as young as two or three – being physically and sexually abused, including by animals.
One person who has known Nader for more than 25 years has told Middle East Eye that two of Nader's contacts – one in Washington and one a leading political figure in the Gulf – shared what he termed "the same predilections".
Then there is Tevfik Ariv who was arrested in Turkey in 2010 for running a prostitution ring involving adults and some underaged girls. One way or another, he got acquitted of all charges. As far back as the Reagan era, George Nader was attempting to make himself indispensable to successive US administrations by offering back-channel lines of communication with figures in the Middle East who might otherwise remain out of reach.
In recent years, as a senior political adviser to the crown prince, Nader has been helping MBZ in his dealings with both Moscow and Washington, and has been key to the establishment of a new alliance between the Trump administration, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
But Nader has repeatedly been caught in possession of child pornography and has served a prison sentence for the abuse of young boys.
In June, he appeared in court yet again, charged with possessing pornography showing boys – some as young as two or three – being physically and sexually abused, including by animals.
One person who has known Nader for more than 25 years has told Middle East Eye that two of Nader's contacts – one in Washington and one a leading political figure in the Gulf – shared what he termed "the same predilections".
Donald Trump pal Tevfik Arif busted in Turkey for allegedly running hooker ring aboard yacht
In April 2012, Tevfik Arif was acquitted by a Turkish court of all charges in connection with the incident reported here. The court also found that none of the women on the yacht was under the age of 18. –Updated October 19, 2012.
A New York real estate mogul with ties to Donald Trump is at the center of an international sex scandal - suspected of running a high-priced prostitution ring.
Tevfik Arif, 57, has been detained in Turkey on suspicion of setting up trysts between wealthy businessmen and Eastern European models - some underage - aboard a $60 million yacht once used by the nation's founder, Mustafa Ataturk.
A New York real estate mogul with ties to Donald Trump is at the center of an international sex scandal - suspected of running a high-priced prostitution ring.
Tevfik Arif, 57, has been detained in Turkey on suspicion of setting up trysts between wealthy businessmen and Eastern European models - some underage - aboard a $60 million yacht once used by the nation's founder, Mustafa Ataturk.
Don't forget how Trump barged into the dressing room on Miss Universe contestants, some of whom were underaged.
A Timeline of Donald Trump's Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe
On the heels of the damaging videotape on which Trump and former Access Hollywood host Billy Bush salivated over Days of Our Live actress Arianne Zucker, and joked about sexually assaulting women, came allegations that Trump entered the Miss Teen USA changing room where girls as young as 15 were in various states of undress.
Mariah Billado, Miss Teen Vermont 1997 told BuzzFeed, “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here.'” Three other teenage contestants from the same year confirmed the story. The former pageant contestants discussed their memories of the incident after former Miss Arizona Tasha Dixon told Los Angeles’ CBS affiliate that Trump entered the Miss USA dressing room in 2001 when she was a contestant.
“He just came strolling right in,” Dixon said. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked. Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half-naked changing into our bikinis.”
He admitted it on the Howard Stern show; and Ivanka, when asked about it, shrugged it off.Mariah Billado, Miss Teen Vermont 1997 told BuzzFeed, “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here.'” Three other teenage contestants from the same year confirmed the story. The former pageant contestants discussed their memories of the incident after former Miss Arizona Tasha Dixon told Los Angeles’ CBS affiliate that Trump entered the Miss USA dressing room in 2001 when she was a contestant.
“He just came strolling right in,” Dixon said. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked. Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half-naked changing into our bikinis.”
The Trump campaign did not offer a response to either story, but in a 2005 appearance on Howard Stern’s show, Trump bragged about doing exactly what the women describe. “I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” he said.
His position as the pageant’s owner entitled him to that kind of access, Trump explained, seemingly aware that what he was doing made the women uncomfortable. “You know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it… Is everyone OK? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that,” he said.
(Billado told BuzzFeed she mentioned the incident to Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, who shrugged it off, saying, “Yeah, he does that.”)
When you have to make-up Lies to make a point...your credibility falls flat.
Trump did not Praise a Convicted pedophile for liking female children.
Epstein was arrested on charges of activity with female children.
Trump had a historical and severed Financial relationship with Epstein for several years, as did Clinton and other well known people seeking Financial backing for business ventures.
Trump stated his own opinion about observing Epsteins fondness for beautiful younger WOMEN...and You translate that into PRAISING a CHILD PEDOPHILE.
Did you miss the Facts?
Epstein mysteriously DIED in confined Custody.
He was NOT Convicted.
Making a Statement About young-ER WOMEN IS NOT Praising a Person Accused of Preying on CHILDREN!
A person Accused, Does NOT legally identify them as a Pedophile.
Had this conversation with you Before about Falsely Embelishing and Falsely turning Accusations into Proven Facts. It simply reflects poorly on your own character, honesty and creditability.
But apparently that is not important to you, if at "all costs", you might sway the unknowing, to fall for Deception.
Unproved Accusation
Smut Journalists Embellishment "with never having a Personal interview WITH the Accuser"...and the Journalist's Embellishment of purporting the Accusing CLAIM TO ... WAS a Fact.
It is astounding to observe people like you who think Personally Unknown Journalists twisting the Accusations of some annomyous person against a person you personally berate and think your repeating of others opinions AS Facts furthers your ultimate goal of influencing others to join your bandwagon in support of an Oppressing Socialist Government.
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Falling Flat Again-
Jesus mingled with, talked with, visited at their property, ate with Unbelievers.
Jesus' own disciples complained.
Jesus' own Disciples in their own ignorance FAILED to comprehend...Jesus WAS not surrounding Himself with Unbelievers to be Convinced to Agree with Them!
Trump associating with Financial Backers is Not indicative of Trump forming an association For the purpose of becoming involved in assaults ON Children.
Attacking Trump based on accusations and embellishments of person's You do not know...holds Zero creditability.
Trump goes from...entering a Pageants "Dressing Room", including...clothing Racks, make up counters, Hair prep, Staff, women all rushing around...and Trump Asking if EVERYTHING is Okay (Prepared, needed, ready)...
To him strolling in..
To him "barging in" for the implied purpose of an exclusive peep show.
It's your paint brush...but everyone does not have to agree with the "images your Mind envisions".
You're thinking of Trump. He was the one who praised his pedophile pal for liking his girls "on the younger side", and who was sued by a girl who reported him for raping her when she was 13.
Well, let's take a look...
Donald Trump's own words from a magazine article in 2002 are making matters much, much worse for the Trump administration and Trump himself.
Trump told New York magazine in 2002 that Mr. Epstein was a “terrific guy” whom he had known for 15 years.
“He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Trump said. “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
Donald Trump admitted back in 2002 that he knew all about Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual proclivities towards underage girls.
And almost six years before Trump ran for political office, Epstein took the fifth when asked if Trump "socialized" with him and underage women.
From a 2010 deposition of Jeffrey Epstein:
“Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
“A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.”
Trump Bragged About Jeffrey Epstein's Penchant For Young Girls
BTW, Epstein's first arrest for molesting minors, he got an illegal sweetheart deal from the prosecutor (which was later overturned). The prosecutor, after Trump's election, got rewarded with an appointment as Labor Secretary. (He resigned when the stuff hit the fan, and the crooked deal was overturned)
The lawsuit by a 13 YO girl who said she was raped by Epstein and Trump apparently ended for undisclosed reasons.
Well, let's take a look...
Donald Trump's own words from a magazine article in 2002 are making matters much, much worse for the Trump administration and Trump himself.
Trump told New York magazine in 2002 that Mr. Epstein was a “terrific guy” whom he had known for 15 years.
“He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Trump said. “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
Donald Trump admitted back in 2002 that he knew all about Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual proclivities towards underage girls.
And almost six years before Trump ran for political office, Epstein took the fifth when asked if Trump "socialized" with him and underage women.
From a 2010 deposition of Jeffrey Epstein:
“Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
“A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.”
Trump Bragged About Jeffrey Epstein's Penchant For Young Girls
BTW, Epstein's first arrest for molesting minors, he got an illegal sweetheart deal from the prosecutor (which was later overturned). The prosecutor, after Trump's election, got rewarded with an appointment as Labor Secretary. (He resigned when the stuff hit the fan, and the crooked deal was overturned)
The lawsuit by a 13 YO girl who said she was raped by Epstein and Trump apparently ended for undisclosed reasons.
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Well, let's see what the then-underage girls in the pagent have to say:
“Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis,” Ms Dixon told CBS.
“He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked.”
She added that people who worked for Mr Trump “pressured” the women to “fawn over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention” while still not fully dressed.
Ms Dixon added the situation made them feel awkward and physically vulnerable.
Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.
Former Miss Vermont Teen USA, Mariah Billado, told Buzzfeed: "I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, 'Oh my god, there's a man in here."
Three other girls chose to remain anonymous, but told the publication it was "creepy" and "shocking".
Mr Trump said on the Howard Stern radio show in 2005 that he was “allowed”, as the owner of the pageant, to go backstage while the contestants were getting dressed.
Former Miss Arizona says Donald Trump used to 'stroll in' to see naked women in dressing room
Pretty much the definition of an old pervert.
Grailhunter
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You spend so much time tearing down the reputation of a person that is not here to defend themselves. So brave? But you are here so let's set the record straight....answer the questions.
What is your position on abortion?
Your position on homosexuality?
Your position on drug use?
Your position on the leftist form of communism?
Your position on law and order?
Your position on law enforcement?
Your position on the rioters in the democratic run cities?
Your position on shutting down churches in democratic run states?
Your position on school prayer?
Your position on our schools teaching our children to be communists and atheists?
Cringeworthy. How could a father say things like that about his daughter?
I can only imagine that he does it because he thinks that's normal. He's a pervert, but I hope he's not that much of a pervert.
You think repeating yourself makes it more truthful. It doesn't.
It may be out of your league...
But wealthy, single, men like the company of beautiful women. And beautiful women like the company of wealthy, single men.
And two men sharing the social spotlight in the same cities along with other people with wealth and position... must be foreign to you.
Sort of paints an image of someone who was a single, broke, dateless, jealous loner.
Epstein and Trump both were social highlights in two different cities...So what?
They both also had interests in Real Estate...
So what?
A Real Estate deal ended their social palling.
When...? Over 15 years ago...
And that is News? LOL.
2002- eighteen years ago.
2010- ten years ago.
a Jeffery Epstein deposition, and the HIGHLIGHT is Trump? LOL
So? What does that have to do with Trump?
Nothing!
Jesus was hung between two Thieves.
And Jesus spoke to one of them....
And Jesus Promised one of them a trip to Paradise...
So what?
LOL- a prosecutor, gave a man (Trump was no longer friends with) a sweetheart deal....
And Trump "Rewarded" the prosecutor with a Cabinet Appointment.
LOL-
You really do not comprehend Social circles on a large scale....or severed friendships.
He resigned...so what?
No the deal was not overturned. An investigation of him properly informing victims may still in process.
No, reasons were disclosed. Suspect that a victim did not exist and the female claiming to be the victim had Zero evidence, witnesses, anyone else she told, medical report, collaboration of her own whereabouts, or any other clues or resources that would verify any of her claims.
So 10 and 18 year old statements and Trumps knowing a wide Circle of People...
Is What? Your big news of the week?
Almost impressive...Not.
It strikes a vision of a parrot without original thought and cowering in the shadows for fear of having to defend themselves.
LOL- That's a lot of research, less pelosi will take his call.
Glory to God,
Taken
I've never walked into a dressing room of nude 15-19 YO girls. Never really wanted to, after I became an adult. Never wanted to have sex with a child. So yeah, those guys are out of my league, for sure.
But most wealthy, single men like the company of women, not children. That's what distinguishes those guys from normal men.
In my circle, I got noticed for operating the local soccer league, Boy Scouts, Photo club, tinkering with technology, and papers on animal populations. I had way more fun than they did.
I was single, once. Then, my first day in college, I saw this cute little lady with the kind of fire that let her shut down a grad student who tried to embarrass her. I thought, "I like that." And that was the end of my single years. We've been married nearly 51 years now.
I've been broke. After I got drafted, we struggled for a few years. It's annoying, but not as bad as people make out. And (to be honest, mostly by good fortune), choices I made led to me become very comfortable financially. And that is better than broke.
Didn't date much in high school. Athletics and nerdy stuff pretty much drew most of my attention. In college, I don't think we really thought of it as dating. We just liked each other a lot,and wanted to spend time with each other.
I'm pretty comfortable with who I am. Which is the real secret to being happy. I do this thing, when Mrs. Yehren and I are out in public. I look around the room and when she asks what I'm doing, I say "I've got the best date in the room." And she grins and blushes.
Being an NT personality, I like my alone time. It's how I recharge. And when I do most of my thinking and planning.
We all understand your denial; Trump's pedophile pal gets a sweetheart deal from a prosecutor who Trump later rewards with a cabinet appointment, from which he quickly resigns when the details of the deal emerge.
And when the pal is re-arrested, he is "suicided" in federal prison on Trump's watch. We all see that. And when his pal's girlfriend is arrested for her part in recruiting girls "on the younger side" as Trump joked, Trump publicly wishes her well. If I were her, I'd be really, really worried, right now.
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Wow.
Looks like in your self description of being an intellectual, logical, analytical, unsentimental,
loner...you overlooked having this forums offering of space to exclusively talk about yourself.
It's clear you Judge people by Association. Being a loner, in the Shadows, behind the camera, analyzing everyone else, embellishing your analysis, seemingly gives you comfort that you yourself evades being scrutinized.
It is clear you hang in the shadows, behind your targets backs, adopting others opinions, accusations, embellishing hate, toward Trump.
You should have learned individuals are Accountable for their own Actions.
Trump's likes, dislikes, business entities, charities, lifestyle, wealth, acquaintances, family, are his business.
Epstein's likes, dislikes, business entities, lifestyle, wealth, acquaintances, family, were his business.
You desperately trying to make one accountable for the other is the logic of a child.
1 Cor 13:
[11] When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Glory to God,
Taken
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