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@teamventure Seems hard to see how the church can go through the Great Tribulation...
I agree. I was referring to tribulation saints who get saved after the rapture.
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@teamventure Seems hard to see how the church can go through the Great Tribulation...
No such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture, it's the invention of John N. Darby 1830's and promoted by the C.I. Scofield reference bible 1909I agree. I was referring to tribulation saints who get saved after the rapture.
Matthew 25:v. 34 and 41
34 Then shall the King -JESUS- say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the KINGDOM PREPARED
for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall JESUS say also unto them on the left hand, DEPART FROM ME, ye CURSED, into everlasting FIRE, prepared for the Devil and his messengers (Example: 2Corinthians 11:v.13-15.And also those which were selling oil, even without have it-Matt.25:v.8-13)
I agree. I was referring to tribulation saints who get saved after the rapture.
No such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture, it's the invention of John N. Darby 1830's and promoted by the C.I. Scofield reference bible 1909
I agree, a pre-trib rapture is a can of old wormsSir, that is a can of old worms
I agree, a pre-trib rapture is a can of old worms
I Disagree, John N. Darby 1830's is the modern father of a pre-trib raptureI agree, an older can of worms that J.Darby.
I Disagree, John N. Darby 1830's is the modern father of a pre-trib rapture
Wikipwdia: John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism. Pre-tribulation rapture theology was popularized extensively in the 1830s by John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren,[1] and further popularized in the United States in the early 20th century by the wide circulation of the Scofield Reference Bible.[2]
Will you deny John N. Darby is the father of the pre-trib rapture, please post your resources, waiting?So your proof is a wikipedia article? With that we could also prove atheism.
Will you deny John N. Darby is the father of the pre-trib rapture, please post your resources, waiting?
Pseudo-Ephraem was the invention of Cameron Rhodes, a teacher in Hurst Texas from the unaccredited Tyndale Theological SeminaryEarly saints way before Darby taught the rapture was imminent.
Clement of Rome
Pseudo-Barnabas
Irenaeus of Lyon
Pseudo-Ephraem
This is common knowledge now amongst scholars and your John Darby regergitation is just propaganda.
Source: The Rapture: A Pre-Darby Rapture | Truth & Tidings
Pseudo-Ephraem was the invention of Cameron Rhodes, a teacher in Hurst Texas from the unaccredited Tyndale Theological Seminary
I'm waiting for your posted citations of Clement, Iranaeus, and Pseudo Barnabas
My study finds that both Clement and Iranaeus saw the church present on earth to be eyewitnesses of the man of sin or antichrist
Pseudo-Ephraem was the invention of Cameron Rhodes, a teacher in Hurst Texas from the unaccredited Tyndale Theological Seminary
No such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture, it's the invention of John N. Darby 1830's and promoted by the C.I. Scofield reference bible 1909
Pseudo-Ephraem was the invention of Cameron Rhodes, a teacher in Hurst Texas from the unaccredited Tyndale Theological Seminary
I'm waiting for your posted citations of Clement, Iranaeus, and Pseudo Barnabas
My study finds that both Clement and Iranaeus saw the church present on earth to be eyewitnesses of the man of sin or antichrist
What occurs during the tribulation?Darby Irrelevant-
Do you believe Wrath occurs during the Tribulation?
What occurs during the tribulation?
The scripture clearly teaches the church will be present on earth during the tribulation, signs sun, moon, heavens shakenPhilosophies of men - Irrelevant
Where does Scripture teach the Church is present during the Tribulation?
The scripture clearly teaches the church will be present on earth during the tribulation, signs sun, moon, heavens shaken
When the church witnesses these events "Look UUp"the return of Jesus is near
Luke 21:25-28KJV
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.