Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

Cooper · Jul 13, 2021

Enoch111 said:
Are you not familiar with the term "imputed righteousness"? See Romans 4.

I do not believe I have the righteousness of Christ, and never will have in this mortal frame. Neither do I believe Abraham had the righteousness of Christ, he simply believed in God (faith) and his obedience was the evidence of that faith that followed naturally on. Works are evidence of our faith. (James)
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MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

Cooper said:
I do not believe I have the righteousness of Christ, and never will have in this mortal frame. Neither do I believe Abraham had the righteousness of Christ, he simply believed in God (faith) and his obedience was the evidence of that faith that followed naturally on. Works are evidence of our faith. (James)
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All things are possible to them that can believe.
I testify to you this is a true statement.

The righteousness of Christ is only the beginning to
the best which is yet to come.

Cooper · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
Do you find it bizarre that even knowing all that you know about these things
you have stated and reading the bible over and over and asking the eternal living God
everyday for something...you still disobey Him?

That would be perfection and that is not possible, I am sorry to say.
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Cooper · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
All things are possible to them that can believe.
I testify to you this is a true statement.

The righteousness of Christ is only the beginning to
the best which is yet to come.

There are a lot of very self-righteous people around, I have to admit.
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Enoch111 · Jul 13, 2021

Cooper said:
I do not believe I have the righteousness of Christ... Neither do I believe Abraham had the righteousness of Christ

Which simply means that YOU DO NOT BELIEVE GOD. But Abraham believed God, therefore the righteousness of Christ was imputed to him.

ROMANS 4: ABRAHAM'S SIMPLE UNSHAKEABLE FAITH
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

Cooper · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
Nothing can quench the Spirit of the eternal living God...not even Satan...not even your sins. Just as nothing can separate His love for me.

Why do you believe such silliness?

It is very true that God loves the sinner and that is what we are, sinners saved by grace, whose righteousness is as filthy rags. God also loves the humble of heart, but not the proud who will ultimately fall.
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Cooper · Jul 13, 2021

Enoch111 said:
Which simply means that YOU DO NOT BELIEVE GOD. But Abraham believed God, therefore the righteousness of Christ was imputed to him.

ROMANS 4: ABRAHAM'S SIMPLE UNSHAKEABLE FAITH
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

That's rubbish. (What you said about me not believing God.)

A righteous person is simply someone who is right with God.
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Ronald David Bruno · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
If you believe this here you have stated then the sin you commit is not more than you can
repent and cease from ever doing again. Am I correct?

No. I didn't imply that. What God gives me, the trials and tribulations He allows, the pain and suffering, etc, is not more than He has equipped me to bear.
My sins have been forgiven, past present and future on the cross.
Since I have a dual nature, the flesh wars against the spirit and vice versa. This will go on until I die and am released from this body. My spirit will separate and go to the Lord.
Do you completely cease from the sins you commit or do you repeat them?
Sin dwells in the members of our flesh. I die to my old nature daily, I mortify the flesh and have grown to hate sin, am no longer a slave to it and therefore exercise self control, obedience, holiness ... yet still, I am a sinner until I die OR am resurrected.

amadeus · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
You need to find another teacher.

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

amadeus said:
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

Did Jesus say that to you?

MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

Ronald David Bruno said:
No. I didn't imply that. What God gives me, the trials and tribulations He allows, the pain and suffering, etc, is not more than He has equipped me to bear.
My sins have been forgiven, past present and future on the cross.
Since I have a dual nature, the flesh wars against the spirit and vice versa. This will go on until I die and am released from this body. My spirit will separate and go to the Lord.
Do you completely cease from the sins you commit or do you repeat them?
Sin dwells in the members of our flesh. I die to my old nature daily, I mortify the flesh and have grown to hate sin, am no longer a slave to it and therefore exercise self control, obedience, holiness ... yet still, I am a sinner until I die OR am resurrected.

You are going to be in for an UNEXPECTED rude awakening some day.

MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

Cooper said:
It is very true that God loves the sinner and that is what we are, sinners saved by grace, whose righteousness is as filthy rags. God also loves the humble of heart, but not the proud who will ultimately fall.
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Did God tell you all this about Him?

MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

Cooper said:
There are a lot of very self-righteous people around, I have to admit.
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Are you speaking from your own experience?

amadeus · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
Nothing can quench the Spirit of the eternal living God...not even Satan...not even your sins. Just as nothing can separate His love for me.

Why do you believe such silliness?

Silliness? Is such openly stated disregard for what I believe the way I serve God supposed to edify anyone in some way? Idle words?

We do live for God by faith rather than by knowledge. Without knowledge, are you not making a judgement not yours to make? You apparently disagree with my belief, but do you not also live by faith?

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Heb 11:1

Standing back once you have stated your case and leaving any final judgment in the hands of the only One who always knows all things is not an evil thing. Are not idle words are better left unspoken?

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matt 12:36-37

"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matt 7:2

Ronald David Bruno · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
You are going to be in for an UNEXPECTED rude awakening some day.

Be nice and be careful what you imply. You already distorted my first post and now what - you are trying to scare me? Wooooo

MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

amadeus said:
Silliness? Is such openly stated disregard for what I believe the way I serve God supposed to edify anyone in some way? Idle words?

We do live for God by faith rather than by knowledge. Without knowledge, are you not making a judgement not yours to make? You apparently disagree with my belief, but do you not also live by faith?

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Heb 11:1

Standing back once you have stated your case and leaving any final judgment in the hands of the only One who always knows all things is not an evil thing. Are not idle words are better left unspoken?

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matt 12:36-37

"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matt 7:2

If all this applies to you...you will not make it.

MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

Ronald David Bruno said:
Be nice and be careful what you imply. You already distorted my first post and now what - you are trying to scare me? Wooooo

it is you that should take care. I am talking to you.

amadeus · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
Did Jesus say that to you?

Yes! I am one of his sheep!

"To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice." John 10:3-4

MyLordisGod · Jul 13, 2021

amadeus said:
Yes! I am one of his sheep!

I have to disagree with you.

amadeus · Jul 13, 2021

MyLordisGod said:
If all this applies to you...you will not make it.

I am what I am and what He is helping me to become. Each day for many many years now I have been talking and walking with God. He knows me perfectly and He is helping me get to know Him better. I have learn to trust Him even when I stumble... God, I believe, is looking to our hearts rather than to our theology.

Look to yourself my friend and your own vision from and of God.

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