When did Daniel 7:13-14 happen?

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So though Peter was writing to Jewish believers specifically, all of us are kings? Where is your tiny kingdom? Who are yoru subjects?
can't be a king without a kiongdom to rule. Can't be a king if you have no subjects.
Again, we are made to be kings unto God, and no one else.
Revelation 1[6] And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
God's understanding of kingship is far different than how we do things. Think! Jesus our King, and He became a servant.

You haven't figured it out yet that God's inspiration of the scriptures is by His own thoughts and ways, and not by our thoughts and ways of what we think His meaning is. His meanings of His thoughts, through our human language, can only be revealed to us by His Spirit. Isaiah 55:8-9, Zechariah 4:6, John 16:13
That's why it is necessary that WE HAVE His Holy Spirit.
 

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One name for all of Daniel, that you and all the religious of "church-ianity" attempt to shift far forward upto this present date (and beyond), will set you back on your heels. His name was Antiochus Epiphanes IV. Do your due diligence to study that "little horn".

You spelled "little horn" in quotes correctly, I say this because the theory you are spreading has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit-inspired Word of God, but rather with literature inspired by the spirit of the ancient Serpent also called Devil and Satan. In fact, it was not you who invented this satanic literature, unfortunately you believed in this tares sown by the Devil and became one of the followers of the red Dragon in the current heavenly place in Christ. But he will be cast down from here into the earth, from now on.


A good read of the Jewish historical record of 1&2 Maccabees is in order, which by the way, is the origin and reason for the Jewish celebration of Hanukkah. Though they themselves know the reasons of it, it is one of the greatest prophecies fulfilled.... Two ways! One was actual, and the other was in anti-type.

Satan carried you deep through the blackness of darkness, where he showed the source, say, un apocryphal source for you try to interpret prophecy of a man of GOD - Daniel. And you believed in the father of lie, the father of the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Jews as said JESUS in John 8:v.44 - Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


In daniel, be astute, and mind the prophetic times of the 1290 and 1335 days and do the math. Pay attention to what that "little horn" "desolated" and what Judas Maccabeus "restored", and by all means bring your KJV only, with your calculator, you will need both.
There was an "abomination"- a disgusting event against God the Father.

I know who is the little horn, the Wicked Prince from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, tribe of Dan-Genesis 49:v.17. What you are saying is only a storyteller's delight. To interpret the Word of GOD it is necessary the help of the Holy Spirit, not what the Devil says, like astuteness, calculator, or any other satanic resource. Actually, it's your message that causes disgust to the Holy Spirit.


God's only begotten Son Jesus, spoke of it while He was in the "Temple" of His mortal body.
For the remission of sin, do you know what that event was?
Here is a clue: John 2[18] Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.
[22] When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

With regard the remission of sin, the god of this world has blinded your mind; the remission of sin is only and only by/through the blood of JESUS. Hebrews 9:v.22 - ... without shedding of blood is no remission.

Now, as for the act of the "AoD" by Antiochus Epiphanes in Daniel, and was historically recorded in Maccabees, Jesus spoke of that event this way:
Matthew 24[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
See also Mark 13:14.
Can you hazard a guess Who Jesus was pointing to, of which "ye" (they) were going to "see", that was going to be the abomination of destruction, in the eyes of Someone of Great importance?

What JESUS was prophesying had nothing to do with past events, but future event, and this event of AoD is at door and will happen in the years ahead. But you as a believer in apocrypha satanic lies , you are sleeping like the foolish virgins. Wakes up. Wakes up.

es indeed! I dare you to think and entertain those thoughts, for they ARE TRUTH!

There isn't any truth in your above post , except you quoted from Scriptures to do a mix of wheat with devilish tares. The satanic and apocrypha books and the devilish literatures inspired by the old serpent, the Devil and Satan, who will be cast down from the heavenly place in Christ, first to the earth, and after into the bottomless pit, even from now on, in LITERAL fulfillment of the Word of GOD, yeah, your tares will be burned with everlasting fire. The Word is GOD. GOD will hasten His Word to perform it.
 

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You spelled "little horn" in quotes correctly, I say this because the theory you are spreading has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit-inspired Word of God, but rather with literature inspired by the spirit of the ancient Serpent also called Devil and Satan. In fact, it was not you who invented this satanic literature, unfortunately you believed in this tares sown by the Devil and became one of the followers of the red Dragon in the current heavenly place in Christ. But he will be cast down from here into the earth, from now on.

> I asked a Bible based question having a clue in it, but you didn't answer it.
So, instead you continue to be in attack mode, which reveals that you are stalling, because you don't know the clue, nor do you know the answer, even with the scriptures that I provided.

Let me repeat it again:
"God's only begotten Son Jesus, spoke of it (the AoD) while He was in the "Temple" of His mortal body.
>The clue:
For the remission of sin, do you know what that event was?"

Now, can YOU make the connection with the "abomination of desolation" commited by Antiochus Epiphanes in the Temple building, with the Temple of Jesus' mortal body?
Who was it that was ultimately offended, and thought it to be an "abomination of desolation", that the Temple body of Jesus was tormented and destroyed, but was to be restored to NEW Life?
Select one answer:
1. The Jews
2. God the Father

Who was Judas Maccabeus, and what was it that he accomplished, concerning the
"desolation" of the Temple building by Antiochus Epiphanes?
Ans. He "restored" it.

What did Jesus do (who is Himself the resurrection) to the destroyed temple of His own mortal body?
You answer it, if you can!







Satan carried you deep through the blackness of darkness, where he showed the source, say, un apocryphal source for you try to interpret prophecy of a man of GOD - Daniel. And you believed in the father of lie, the father of the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Jews as said JESUS in John 8:v.44 - Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.




I know who is the little horn, the Wicked Prince from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, tribe of Dan-Genesis 49:v.17. What you are saying is only a storyteller's delight. To interpret the Word of GOD it is necessary the help of the Holy Spirit, not what the Devil says, like astuteness, calculator, or any other satanic resource. Actually, it's your message that causes disgust to the Holy Spirit.




With regard the remission of sin, the god of this world has blinded your mind; the remission of sin is only and only by/through the blood of JESUS. Hebrews 9:v.22 - ... without shedding of blood is no remission.



What JESUS was prophesying had nothing to do with past events, but future event, and this event of AoD is at door and will happen in the years ahead. But you as a believer in apocrypha satanic lies , you are sleeping like the foolish virgins. Wakes up. Wakes up.



There isn't any truth in your above post , except you quoted from Scriptures to do a mix of wheat with devilish tares. The satanic and apocrypha books and the devilish literatures inspired by the old serpent, the Devil and Satan, who will be cast down from the heavenly place in Christ, first to the earth, and after into the bottomless pit, even from now on, in LITERAL fulfillment of the Word of GOD, yeah, your tares will be burned with everlasting fire. The Word is GOD. GOD will hasten His Word to perform it.
 

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To Osea-
> I asked a Bible based question having a clue in it, but you didn't answer it.
So, instead you continue to be in attack mode, which reveals that you are stalling, because you don't know the clue, nor do you know the answer, even with the scriptures that I provided.

Let me repeat it again:
"God's only begotten Son Jesus, spoke of it (the AoD) while He was in the "Temple" of His mortal body.
>The clue:
For the remission of sin, do you know what that event was?"

Now, can YOU make the connection with the "abomination of desolation" commited by Antiochus Epiphanes in the Temple building, with that of the Temple of Jesus' mortal body?
Who was it that was ultimately offended, and thought it to be an "abomination of desolation", that the Temple body of Jesus was tormented and destroyed, but was to be restored to NEW Life?
Select one answer:
1. The Jews
2. God the Father

Who was Judas Maccabeus, and what was it that he accomplished, concerning the
"desolation" of the Temple building by Antiochus Epiphanes?
Ans. He "restored" it.

What did Jesus do (who is Himself the resurrection) to the destroyed temple of His own mortal body?
You answer it, if you can!

Waiting...
 

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To Osea-
> I asked a Bible based question having a clue in it, but you didn't answer it.
So, instead you continue to be in attack mode, which reveals that you are stalling, because you don't know the clue, nor do you know the answer, even with the scriptures that I provided.

Let me repeat it again:
"God's only begotten Son Jesus, spoke of it (the AoD) while He was in the "Temple" of His mortal body.
>The clue:
For the remission of sin, do you know what that event was?"

Now, can YOU make the connection with the "abomination of desolation" commited by Antiochus Epiphanes in the Temple building, with that of the Temple of Jesus' mortal body?
Who was it that was ultimately offended, and thought it to be an "abomination of desolation", that the Temple body of Jesus was tormented and destroyed, but was to be restored to NEW Life?
Select one answer:
1. The Jews
2. God the Father

Who was Judas Maccabeus, and what was it that he accomplished, concerning the
"desolation" of the Temple building by Antiochus Epiphanes?
Ans. He "restored" it.

What did Jesus do (who is Himself the resurrection) to the destroyed temple of His own mortal body?
You answer it, if you can!

Waiting...

I work with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? You believed in lies, you believed in theories of demons, your soul and life is in danger. The battle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

You are working with SATANIC theories of demons, and apocrypha books and literatures of false interpretation of Sciptures as the demonic theory of Antiochus Epiphanes, which has nothing to do with the prophecies of Daniel, but you according your spirit mix your devilish tares with wheat. This is the difference. I will not write what your deceiver spirit wants to hear, but what your spirit MUST hear.

I work with the Word of GOD. It is written: Thou believest that there is one GOD? thou doest well: the devils also believe - James 2:v.19 combined with 2 Corinthians 11:v.13 to 15:
13 Such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers(ministers of Satan-I know them) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Revelation 16:v.13-15
3 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs (A SATANIC TRINITY) come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.


14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.


Be careful, or get ready
 

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To Oseas,
One last time**, hoping and praying that the Holy Spirit of God will deliver you from your own self inflicted captivity of opposing yourself, which has tightly bound you by the subtilty of your own form of self righteouness.
2 Timothy 2:24-25
2 Timothy 3:5-7

Now, recalling the scriptures that I had previously referred you to, concerning
"the abomination that maketh desolate",
**WHO was it that Jesus was pointing to and speaking about, in His words of Matthew 24:15 and/or Mark 13:14?
The answer is: Himself.

Yes! I do sense your immediate and vehement reaction, but it is shockingly TRUE!! Daniel 9:24-27 is not anywhere near the fantasy of what "church-ianity" has been promoting. Their view and version of it is an extreme LIE, and is nothing but a fictional fabrication, derived from numerous vain imaginations.
There is no "missing week" that now has to be attached onto these "end times".
Jesus' finished work on the cross, Himself being the Lamb OF God, is the ultimate sacrifice for the remission of sin.

It was by His sacrifice, that was the cause of the "sacrifice and oblation to cease -Daniel 9:27. No longer were those religious activities worth anything in and through the Jewish Temple. That is why Jesus said to them: "your house is left unto you desolate"- Matthew 23:38 and Luke 13:35. The covenant that was confirmed, is the New Covennant, and was done by Jesus Himself, working with the disciples and shortly after Pentecost, which was a period of one prophetic week.
From Jesus' birth to the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70AD, was 70 years, being ONE prophetic week!

Do you not know of the six points of the work of God, that had to be "finished" through our Savior, as prophesied in
Daniel 9:24?
[24] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
1. to finish the transgression, and
2. to make an end of sins, and
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity, and
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy, and 6. to anoint the most Holy.

Jesus Himself performed and finished all of the six works of God, as it was required of Him, for our salvation by the Father.
The 70 week prophecy was FULFILLED in the day that the Temple of Jesus' body
(John 2:21) was crucified (desolated), and then resurrected (restored) to New Life.

You, as we all, have little time left to grasp this truth!!


 
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The Word of GOD - the Word is GOD - is Judging you as a sower of devilish tares among His people. The time is of the righteous Judgment of GOD, there will no escape, all must Appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. JESUS left VERY clear: Matt.12:v.36-37 -
36 Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. (This Day arrived)
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

THE CONDEMNATION AND THE CHASTISEMENT

Romans 2v.5 to 11 (among others)

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of wrath and revelation of the righteous Judgment of God; (This Day arrived)

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

GOD said - the Word is GOD - I will hasten my Word to perform it.

I work with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? You believed in lies, you believed in theories of demons, your soul and life is in danger. The battle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

You are working with SATANIC theories of demons, and apocrypha books and literatures of false interpretation of Sciptures as the demonic theory of Antiochus Epiphanes, which has nothing to do with the prophecies of Daniel, but you according your spirit mix your devilish tares with wheat. This is the difference. I will not write what your deceiver spirit wants to hear, but what your spirit MUST hear.

I work with the Word of GOD. It is written: Thou believest that there is one GOD? thou doest well: the devils also believe - James 2:v.19 combined with 2 Corinthians 11:v.13 to 15:
13 Such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers(ministers of Satan-I know them) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Revelation 16:v.13-15
3 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs (A SATANIC TRINITY) come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils,
working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Get ready
 

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^ In my last post, please refer to the KJV only!
If you don't, you will go through the door of "churchianity's" deception, via all the modern day corrupted bibles, being translated from the Westcott & Hort Greek text. I strongly urge you and all to stay away from them!!

Unfortunately, THIS Christian site uses the ASV- American Standard Version, and not the King James Version, which is translated from the Textus Receptus Greek text.
 

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Oseas,
By your most recent post, I am sorry to say that you may have become a tare all bundled, and ready to be burned.

I have provided the accurate truth from the Holy Spirit about Daniel 9:24-27, but if you don't repent and remove yourself from their foul teachings, It is very possible that you have fallen into "God's strong delusion to belive a LIE," of which all the religious tares of "church-ianity" have released upon Christ's church.

If you have any questions to what has been revealed to me and through me, I am always available to answer them.
Other than that, I have nothing more to say towards your rantings and ravings.
Earburner
 
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Every person who is not "born again of the Holy Spirit" is without Christ, and therefore is by default, "the natural man", aka "the seed of the serpent", "a child of the devil",
"a son of perdition (destruction)",
"of that spirit of antichrist", and as a result remains to be "none of His", being "condemned (judged) already".

The question is: how many might that be?
Just one? Or BILLIONS?
Romans 8:9
John 3-18

Now THAT's reality!

Yes but Satan will have one son. and that wicked one is not a collective whole but singular. Unless you think we are all Jesus.

....Many be called, but few chosen. Matthew 20:16.

What accusation?
I thought that John 16:13 was self explanatory for a "born again Christian" .

It is but it is not germaine to this topic, so what does it have to do with your claims?

"11th horn"? Surely you don't mean from Daniel? Are you (I mean church-ianity) still pushing that 2500 year old book into our future?
I can guess, that you/they support it from what they say about that
"missing 70th week".
Missing?? Its NOT missing! It's right there in Daniel 9:24-27.
One just has to know what to look for. There's not a whole lot of math required either!
The key to it all is to discern who is who, in the word "he", in verse 27.
Once you "nail" it, except for a couple of peripheral words, all of Daniel 9:24-27 is a "breeze".

Well if you believe it is fulfilled, then show us from history the events as they are prophesied that fulfilled this 70th week. Many have tried and failed because they had to go into retranslating mode to make Gods Word fit their concepts. Bad exegesis.


^ Oh, I forgot one more important description of the billions who have died without Christ.
They are:
"The man of sin". You know.....

"The natural man".

Yes and all the lost are not "that wicked one" who enters the temple and declares himself god. So do not be surprised when a new Jewish temple rises on temple mount. The antichrist has to enter it after he rises from the dead.
 

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^ In my last post, please refer to the KJV only!
If you don't, you will go through the door of "churchianity's" deception, via all the modern day corrupted bibles, being translated from the Westcott & Hort Greek text. I strongly urge you and all to stay away from them!!

Unfortunately, THIS Christian site uses the ASV- American Standard Version, and not the King James Version, which is translated from the Textus Receptus Greek text.

Oseas,
By your most recent post, I am sorry to say that you may have become a tare all bundled, and ready to be burned.

I have provided the accurate truth from the Holy Spirit about Daniel 9:24-27, but if you don't repent and remove yourself from their foul teachings, It is very possible that you have fallen into "God's strong delusion to belive a LIE," of which all the religious tares of "church-ianity" have released upon Christ's church.

If you have any questions to what has been revealed to me and through me, I am always available to answer them.
Other than that, I have nothing more to say towards your rantings and ravings.
Earburner

What does the Word of GOD say? 1 Corinthians 2:v.11-12
12 If any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

According to the Word of GOD - the Word is GOD - the righteous Judgment of GOD will sit in this pre-determined time, as was prophesied, as follow:
The righteous Judgments of GOD is given to the saints of the most High; the time arrived that the saints will possess the kingdom. Daniel 7:v.22 combined with Revelation 11:v.15-Check it.

Daniel 7:v.26-
26 - The Judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The heavens (heavens have nothing to do with sky) and the earth(Israel, the clay, the dry land), which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men.-2 Peter 3:v.7

And I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cry out with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not Judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

The Word is GOD. GOD said: I will hasten my Word to perform it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


That said, the question is: How will the righteous Judgments of GOD be applied AGAINST MEN of all the nations of the Earth , in LITERAL fulfillment of His Word?

The time of the righteous Judgment of GOD arrived, there will be no escape, all must appear before the Judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. JESUS left VERY clear: Matt.12:v.36-37 -
36 Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. (This Day arrived)
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.


THE CONDEMNATION AND THE CHASTISEMENT

Romans 2v.5 to 11 (among others)
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of wrath and revelation of the righteous Judgment of God; (This Day arrived)
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:


7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

GOD said - the Word is GOD - I will hasten my Word to perform it. There will no escape from now on.


10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

GOD said - the Word is GOD - I will hasten my Word to perform it.

I work with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD - You believed in lies? you believed in theories of demons? your soul and life are in danger. The battle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I work with the Word of GOD. It is written: Thou believest that there is one GOD? thou doest well: the devils also believe - James 2:v.19 combined with 2 Corinthians 11:v.13 to 15:
13 Such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers(ministers of Satan-I know them) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Revelation 16:v.13-15
3 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs (A SATANIC TRINITY) come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of this great Day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Revelation 22:v.11-12
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: (There will not be more salvation for the wicked)


He that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.


Get ready
 
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Yes but Satan will have one son. and that wicked one is not a collective whole but singular. Unless you think we are all Jesus.
In case you forgot, all Born Again Christians are the body of Christ.

God the Father fashioned/created a body for His Son Jesus to dwell in. KJV- Hebrew 10[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Satan, on the other, hand must possess/steal a body of someone. He cannot create anyone or anything to be alive in the flesh.
That is how satan and his horde are a thief. KJV- John 10:10

So then, in order for "church-ianity's" fictitious, fantasy to come about, satan must steal/possess someone else's body.
But then again, he and his evil horde of fallen angels, aka "Legion", have been doing that for years. Thats why there are many antichrists.

Have you not learned about "the strong man", and how he and/or his crowd cannot inhabit anyone who is a Born Again Christian? KJV- Matthew 12:29-30 and Mark 3:27.
That is HOW satan is "bound".
As long as the Age of God's Grace is operative in the world (the great commission), satan is "bound"
From entering into those who are Born Again (regenerated) of His Holy Spirit, aka "the wheat".
KJV- 1 John 5[18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten [regenerated] of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

However, for all those who are professing religious christians, and are in name only, aka "the tares", satan comes and goes with them at his will.
 

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Yes and all the lost are not "that wicked one"
The Textus Receptus Greek (TRG) says
"the wicked" (vs 8). In verse 3, it also says:
"the man of sin", "the son of perdition". In both verses, it allows it to be read in the plural, in which the context following, is all in the plural.
But, if the TRG were to read as "that", then it would most assuredly be understood in the singular. BUT....it doesn't!
If you can't accept this factual truth, then it's not me who has the problem!

Unfortunately, most all of the many corrupted modern bibles of today, seem to follow suit on that error of translation with the KJV. But we really can't say that, because the modern bibles of today are translated from a different Greek text, being that of the Westcott & Hort Greek (WHG) text, and is far different in many ways in comparisn to the Textus Receptus Greek.
 

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What does the Word of GOD say? 1 Corinthians 2:v.11-12
12 If any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is
The correct chapter is KJV-1 Corinthians 3:11-15. Btw, you did forget verses 14 and 15, which are extremely important to the context:[14] If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
[15] If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Do you know what the reward is for BOTH?
Ans. The gift of Eternal life with immortality.
That's all it is, which is enough, don't you think?

Simply put, it's either we are one of His or we are "none of His," which is all determined by whether we have received the GIFT of His Holy Spirit, or we didn't! That is the only factor involved- John 3:3 and Romans 8:9.
It's not all that complicated!
 

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The correct chapter is KJV-1 Corinthians 3:11-15. Btw, you did forget verses 14 and 15, which are extremely important to the context:[14] If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
[15] If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Do you know what the reward is for BOTH?
Ans. The gift of Eternal life with immortality.
That's all it is, which is enough, don't you think?

Simply put, it's either we are one of His or we are "none of His," which is all determined by whether we have received the GIFT of His Holy Spirit, or we didn't! That is the only factor involved- John 3:3 and Romans 8:9.
It's not all that complicated!


Actually you are sleeping like the foolish virgins. You and all are Judged by the Word of GOD - the Word is GOd. Now, even now, from now on, what matters is the righteous Judgments of GOD, as He said. GOD said: I will hasten my Word to perform it.

How will the righteous Judgments of GOD be applied AGAINST MEN of all the nations of the Earth , in LITERAL fulfillment of His Word?


The time of the righteous Judgment of GOD arrived, there will be no escape, all must appear before the Judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. JESUS left VERY clear, saying: Matt.12:v.36-37 -
36 Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. (This Day arrived)
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.


THE CONDEMNATION AND THE CHASTISEMENT

Romans 2v.5 to 11 (among others)
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of wrath and revelation of the righteous Judgment of God; (This Day arrived)
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:


7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

GOD said - the Word is GOD - I will hasten my Word to perform it. There will no escape from now on.

There will be PUNISHMENTS and PUNISHMENTS, PUNISHMENTS and PUNISHMENTS, only PUNISHMENTS, from now on, as was pre-determined to start and be executed in this current time.

HEAR WHO HAS EARS TO HEAR: THE CURRENT CHASTISIMENTS WILL BE FOR EVER AND EVER, IT WILL NEVER END, BUT NEVER.


Who is or will be accounted worthy to reach the next world -the environment of the 3rd heaven- that will be established by the Most High GOD, in the days to come, day after day?

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

GOD said - the Word is GOD - I will hasten my Word to perform it.

I work with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD - You believed in lies? you believed in theories of demons? your soul and life are in danger. The battle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I work with the Word of GOD. It is written: Thou believest that there is one GOD? thou doest well: the devils also believe - James 2:v.19 combined with 2 Corinthians 11:v.13 to 15:
13 Such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers(ministers of Satan-I know them) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Revelation 16:v.13-15
3 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs (A SATANIC TRINITY) come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of this great Day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Revelation 22:v.11-12
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: (There will not be more salvation for the wicked)


He that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Get ready
 

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John the Baptist was not concieved by the Holy Spirit, as was Jesus, but rather was given the Holy Spirit, at the time during his birth.
Who claimed John was conceived by the Holy Spirit?

I said the Holy Spirit starts working in a human at conception. Obviously more so in John the Baptist than most of humanity.
 

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"Abraham's bosom" is a Jewish story, and is not scriptural. However, the scriptural likeness to it, is described in Malachi 3:16 and Revelation 6:9-11.
As for the parable of the Rich man and Lazarus itself, it is a fictitious story, delivering the singular truth about Jesus Himself. Luke 16:30
Explain why Jesus used it, not how it was part of Jewish culture. It was never labeled a Parable either. Can you show evidence of your point in the original text?

The same as the use of the word Paradise used by Jesus on the Cross.
 

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Your questions reflect that you don't comprehend what Luke 11:13 and Romans 8:8-9 are saying.
You are the one claiming Adam and Eve had a sin nature, and that is why they sinned. Otherwise they had no choice.

There was no sin period before Adam disobeyed. Your verses only apply to after sin was in the world. Before Adam ate, he had a permanent incorruptible physical body. After he ate, he had a corruptible sin nature physical body. Adam died just as God claimed he would.
 

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You are the one claiming Adam and Eve had a sin nature, and that is why they sinned. Otherwise they had no choice.
Adam was created without sin and without eternal life, having no eternal existence of any kind.
If you think otherwise, then you are swallowing "church-ianty's" slop that he was given an eternal soul. If you do, then do you think the same is true for animals?
Compare KJV- Genesis 2:7 and Genesis 7:22