Mama Mia, I said that it was allegorical for the lengthy reasons that I cited, NOT JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO?!?!?
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How do things get turned into “ Trump Threads?” Who cares? Any opportunity to discuss the Damnation Of ANYBODY who Satan has deceived to the Point that they think “ I have NO NEED to ask for Forgiveness” needs to be seized upon.....In my lifetime, I have spent time with thugs, wicked people, drunks, druggies , fornicators, adulterers and even murderers .....NEVER have I heard ANYBODY say what that Amazingly Blind man said about Forgiveness ...The really bad people I have known may have never ASKED for Forgiveness but in their heart- Of - Hearts they had enough damned sense to know that they NEEDED It.......the utterly Wretched mr. trump is in a class all by himself....100% blind and he has NO IDEA how Transparent he is to those of us who have experienced the Conviction Of Sin by the Holy Spirit—- the First step in becoming a Christian.....Perhaps one of our Celebrity- Preachers should inform him of these Truths while they fawn all over him.....odds are, they are probably just as Blind as he is..... sad. Covfefe .
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what is the hell fire burning on ?
wood, gas, oil, or the consuming fire God power.
Heb_12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
you know if outer darkness is for real, then that would be like blindness you can't see nothing.
you just be bumping into of a lot of lost people and fallen angels if that is all that is in there.
wood, gas, oil, or the consuming fire God power.
Heb_12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
you know if outer darkness is for real, then that would be like blindness you can't see nothing.
you just be bumping into of a lot of lost people and fallen angels if that is all that is in there.
If you go back and look at my posts on aion and research what I said you'll see that aion cannot mean forever. That's a mistranslation.
Besides, this passage only speaks of the devil, the false prophet, and the beast. It says nothing of anyone else.
It appears you're parroting what you've been taught. You're posting passages that don't even prove what you're claiming. I see this often with people who have been taught certain doctrines but haven't really invested for themselves. When you make a claim, make certain that the passage actually states what it is you're claiming.
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When you say "our" spirit, what do you mean? I don't believe there is a spirit that is man. The spirit in us is the breath or spirit of God. It's something of God not man.
There is eternal salvation. There is no eternal damnation as in a conscious being suffering torment. The Lake of Fire is the second death. It is the second one because it's like the first one where we die. The bodies of those who are lost will be cast into the Lake of Fire and burned up. They are dead, they no longer exist. There is nothing left to suffer eternal torment.
Now, if by eternal damnation you that they are damned for eternity but do not exist then I agree.
No, Hitler is in the grave. He will remain there until the Resurrection at which time he will be judged. "His" spirit is the breath of God. There is no spirit that is man. Read Gen 2:7. You'll see that the breath or spirit in man is the breath or spirit of life from God. That's the only spirit in man.
yes, someone that does not believe in eternal punishment will "metaphorize" hell right out of the Bible, but not out of reality.
I see, you are professing annihilation. No problem, ...but I do believe that there are a significant amount of passages that support the contrary, to a more overwhelming degree.
As far as man's spirit is concerned, I believe it to be the individual's character and actual entity. The body is just an avatar that houses the essence of the person. Where this spirit abides after death, in it's dormant stage, is not defined or circumscribed in Scripture, outside of terms as hades, sheol, the grave, or even the valid expression, returns to God - which means, within His control and provision or oversight - irrespective of where this is geographically located. It does not mean absorbed back into himself, for we do not lose our identities upon physical death - for that same person that existed in the former body, will eventually be given a new body.
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I can't judge him, that's God's place. But, no one will be in the Lake of Fire for eternity
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Agreed, but I have never, ever rejected the doctrine of eternal punishment, I accept it as Biblical truth. BUT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD truther, the parable of the Rich Man & Lazarus is still a flippin' allegory, for the flippin' reasons that I stated.
Go away if you can't comprehend the point!
Yes, I'm professing annihilationism. That's the only thing I see in the Scriptures. It's plainly stated. God said through Ezekiel, 'the soul that sins shall die'. Paul too, said, 'the wages of sin is death'. Jesus gave two options, eternal life or perish. The only thing I see that one can use to hold to ETC are a few passages taken out of context or wrongly translated such as the word aion
That's where we disagree. I see man as the dust of the earth which is animated by the breath of God. I've not found anything in Scripture that would indicate that man is a spirit. When I look at man's creation I only see one spirit mentioned and that is the breath of God. It's called monism and it's the only thing I find compatible with both the Old and new Testaments. I've studied Dualism a bit and don't see how its compatible with the Bible.
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