2 Thes 2 - Grammar 101

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Proper Grammar 101 - of 2 Thes 2.God made the bible even so a child could read it and understand its meaning. In the publications of pre-trib, this teaching has attempted to change all ethics of grammar within 2 These 2. Pre-trib tries to teach that the "he" taken out of the way would be the Holy Spirit, but this teaching goes against all grammar rules. Lets go to grammar 101. = Nouns and pronouns In the reading of 2 Thes 2 the only two nouns that are mentioned is Jesus and the man of sin. Therefore, the pro-nouns of he/him in the chapter can only refer to one of the two nouns mentioned within the chapter. This is proper English of nouns & pronouns. To make the he in the chapter refer to anyone other than those who are mentioned in the chapter goes against all English definitions.Pronoun; Definition. A pronoun is a word that takes the place of a noun.http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/p1/pronoun.asp------------------Example; These are two nouns; John and Bill.Either of these nouns can be replaced with a pronoun. If we replace John or Bill (the subject of the sentence) with a pronoun, we choose he or him as a subject pronoun. When two nouns (names) are given, the first he would represent the first name given in the chapter and the second he would represent the second noun (name) given in the Chapter. Let’s use it in a sentenceExample; John gave Bill an apple, because he knows that he loves apples. The two “he’s in the sentence can only mean John (first he) and Bill (second he). We can not use anyone else to represent the he’s in the sentence. Like our example, in keeping with our English Grammar in 2 Thes 2, we see that Jesus is the first noun given and the man of sin is the 2nd noun given. Using our grade school grammar, the verse would read like this;2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he (Jesus 1st noun) who now letteth will let, until he (Man of Sin=2nd noun) be taken out of the way.If we revert the pronouns back to their original nouns, the Sentence would read like this;2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only Jesus who now letteth will let, until The man of sin be taken out of the way.If we gave this sentence to a 4th grader he would understand grammar and read this sentence as such. In the popularization of the pre-rapture this sentence has become that the Holy Spirit is taken out of the way, but the Holy Spirit was not mentioned as one of the nouns in the Chapter and therefore can not be the he within the chapter. This teaching became popular on the basis that they believe that if they can make they Holy Spirit as being removed, then the Church will be gone as well, but this Chapter does not mention the Holy Spirit, thus the he in the chapter can not refer to the Holy Spirit as it goes against grammar and God is not the author of confusion. God had it translated into English with English grammar and the English grammar rules would apply.If you still believe that 2 Thes 2;7- the one taken out of the way is the Holy Spirit, then you need to read. Mark 13, because we are shown that the Holy Ghost is still here during the time of the tribulation and he is still leading the Christians as what to say. Mk 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.See the Holy Ghost is not gone during the tribulation according to Mark 13:11, so he has not been "taken out of the way" as pre-tribs teach.