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Are you saying our sins are forgiven, past, present and future...just to be clear.?


Jesus is the "one time ETERNAL Sacrifice for SIN"

"God hath made JESUS to BE SIN for us"..

When?

2000 yrs ago On The Cross.

Are you born again?
Then you have God's Righteousness and Jesus has your sin.

Welcome To : Salvation.

Its a "Gift".
 

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Jesus is the "one time ETERNAL Sacrifice for SIN"

"God hath made JESUS to BE SIN for us
Hello Behold.....Jesus took our sin as you say, can you please answer my question....did he die for our past,present and future sin?...I’m just trying to understand.....many thanks.
 

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Hello Behold.....Jesus took our sin as you say, can you please answer my question....did he die for our past,present and future sin?....many thanks.


Jesus is the Eternal Sacrifice for your sin.
He dealt with it all.

This is why God does not charge sin to any believer, who is born again.

Why not?
Because God can't charge you with what Jesus has dealt with, by being Crucified for it.

God does not "double judge".
God didnt send Christ here to die for your sin and then hold you accountable for it also.


2 Corinthians 5:19

Romans 4:8
 

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Jesus is the Eternal Sacrifice for your sin.
He dealt with it all.

This is why God does not charge sin to any believer, who is born again.

Why not?
Because God can't charge you with what Jesus has dealt with, by being Crucified for it.

God does not "double judge".
God didnt send Christ here to die for your sin and then hold you accountable for it also.
So, Jesus dealt with our past ,present and future sin....that’s very interesting....I will check out that scripture you posted, then any more questions, I will get back to you.
 

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Jesus dealt with our past ,present and future sin....that’s very interesting...

Heed what the Holy Bible says:

“…if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?” (Hebrews 10:26-29)
 

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Please do.
We have the righteousness of Christ..?

Romans 3:21-26

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Righteousness Through Faith​

21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.22 This righteousness is given through faith in[a] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[b] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
 

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Are you born again?
Then you have God's Righteousness and Jesus has your sin.
Yes, I’m born again....and yes, I have God’s Righteousness and Jesus has my sin....he paid the price for our sin, by being crucified.
 

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We have the righteousness of Christ..?

Romans 3:21-26​


Exactly.

The born again, are "made righteous"....

The born again are "the righteousness of God, in Christ".

The born again are "one with God".

The Born again are "seated in Heavenly places".

The born again are...

"As Christ is, so are the born again......in this world"..


See.......God has to deal with all our sin, before He can join us to Himself by new birth... = born again., and He did as Christ on the Cross.

When you read that a born again believer is a "NEW CREATION"..."in Christ" that means that you are no longer the sinner, having your sin.
You are now "made free from sin".....

Romans 6:22

and exist as ..

1 John 3:9
 
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God has to deal with all our sin, before He can join us to Himself by new birth... = born again.
In Jesus Name!....Amen!!...His Word is coming together like a jigsaw puzzle....I’ve had to seek this truth out though....it wasn’t delivered on a plate......Praise God.
 

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In Jesus Name!....Amen!!...His Word is coming together like a jigsaw puzzle....I’ve had to seek this truth out though....it wasn’t delivered on a plate......Praise God.

Yes.

That is how God reveals His word.
Exactly as you are finding it to happen inside you.

God requires that we STUDY......the word., and mainly the NT, for "correct" doctrine". (Paul's)
So this is to go all over it........here , there, over there, this verse, that verse..
And God then connects the dots, as we compare "scripture with scripture" and suddenly...."oh i SEE IT"...>"makes perfect sense"..."it all lines up".

What happens also, is that you see "Jesus" all over the NT, and the OT.
He's in so many verses......you begin to see Him, everywhere in there.

Its a beautiful experience, that only happens when you SEE the Grace of God as what you are seeing.
You have to SEE that Light first.......as that is the switch that turns on the rest of God's revelation.

You'll see more and more when you live in this VERSE, and do what it says..

Hebrews 13:9
 
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Are you saying our sins are forgiven, past, present and future...just to be clear.?

In Colossians 2:13–14, Paul writes, “And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross” (ESV, emphasis added). The word all means “any, every, the whole of.” Thus, all of our sins—past, present, and future—were nailed to the cross and completely forgiven (see Psalm 103:12 and 1 Peter 2:24).

In 1 John 5:13, the apostle says, “I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life” (ESV, emphasis added). John wrote this epistle (or letter) to reassure believers of their eternal salvation, which is a present and future reality (John 3:16). But if only our past sins are forgiven, then we could not know that we are saved, and John would be a liar. John is not a liar (John 1:14; 1 John 1:1–4). Therefore, we know that our salvation is eternally secure. Our past, present, and future sins have been eternally forgiven (John 10:25–30).

In Hebrews 10:10, the writer says, “We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all” (ESV, emphasis added). Because of the blood of Jesus Christ, we have been “made perfect forever” (verse 14), God will remember our sins no more (verse 17), and “there is no longer any offering for sin” (verse 18, ESV). But if only our past sins are forgiven, then none of this is true, and we would stand condemned before God. Yet the writer of Hebrews clearly expresses that the sacrificial death of Jesus was offered once for all. Therefore, we know that the blood of Jesus covers our past, present, and future sins (1 John 1:7).

In 1 John 2:12, the apostle writes, “I am writing to you, little children, because your sins are forgiven for his name’s sake” (ESV, emphasis added). Are only our past sins forgiven? No, all of our sins are forgiven! In the original language, the words translated “have been forgiven” refer to a past action that continues in the present. Simply put, believers are forgiven and remain forgiven: “My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:1–2, ESV). The word propitiation means “appeasement” or “satisfaction.”

The biblical evidence shows that Jesus died for our past, present, and future sins. If you are still uncertain, or if you are worried that you are not forgiven, then God wants to give you assurance today. The burden of sin is too heavy for you to carry (Psalm 34:8). Why not give it to Jesus? He will carry it for you (Matthew 11:28–30). got ?

hope this helps !!!
 

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The biblical evidence shows that Jesus died for our past, present, and future sins. If you are still uncertain, or if you are worried that you are not forgiven, then God wants to give you assurance today. The burden of sin is too heavy for you to carry (Psalm 34:8). Why not give it to Jesus? He will carry it for you (Matthew 11:28–30). got ?

hope this helps !!!
I have no doubt that I am forgiven and been birthed in the spirit.....I have always believed this....I just wasn’t understanding about having the righteousness of Christ...took me a while to understand that.
 
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I have no doubt that I am forgiven and been birthed in the spirit.....I have always believed this....I just wasn’t understanding about having the righteousness of Christ...took me a while to understand that.

When you went to Jesus, wanting to be saved......something happened.

"The Divine Exchange".


This is ...... "God hath made Jesus to be YOUR SIN (sin for us)", = and You became "In Christ" as "The RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD...." "one with God"..

God literally and eternally gave you "Christ's Righteousness"" as if you did it.

This is "The GIFT of Righteousness" .......as having been "made righteous".


Romans 5:17

""For if by one man’s offense death reigned by one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and the GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS shall reign in life by One, Jesus Christ.""

= "New CREATION....... In Christ". = Born...... again.


God is Good !
 
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“And you, who were once alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish, and without charge in His sight, if indeed you continue in the faith grounded and settled, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel…” (Colossians 1:21-23)
 

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Life Through the Spirit​

8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[e] his Spirit who lives in you.

12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.[f] And by him we cry, “Abba,[g] Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

Present Suffering and Future Glory​

18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.

28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[i] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified;those he justified, he also glorified.

More Than Conquerors​

31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]
37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.




A born again has been birthed in the Spirit, the Spirit of God is Love, there is NOTHING that can separate from the Love of Christ, as scripture explains above, Praise God for His indwelling Holy Spirit....who has reunited us back to Himself,Through the power of His Holy Spirit.....

1 John 4:7-21

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God’s Love and Ours​

7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. 10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved usand sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
13 This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. 17 This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus. 18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
19 We love because he first loved us. 20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. 21 And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.

God’s Spirit is Alive and active.

Hebrews 4:12​

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12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
 
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A born again has been birthed in the Spirit, the Spirit of God is Love, there is NOTHING that can separate from the Love of Christ,​


Jesus said "i'll never leave you".

So, that is true, as How can Jesus leave the born again, who is "in Christ".....Joined Spiritually.?

"Christ IN YOU< the hope of Glory" is not something Jesus can "leave".

Now, can a person no longer believe it, or believe against it, like this..

"as long as i do this, and do that, and dont do THAT".... "then Jesus wont leave me, and i stay saved".


But Jesus didn't say that if you keep your faith, or if you get water baptized, or if you memorize the commandments and give to the poor, , etc, etc, that He would stay.

He said HE wont leave you, so, that is HIS Will.....and you can't change it because you have a faith Crisis on Tuesday,.... dead faith on Wed, and a week later, you dont.

FAITH is not the Savior.
Holding unto your faith, does not keep you saved.
God holding onto you, by being IN YOU, and you "ONE WITH GOD", is why you are going to Heaven.
Being BORN AGAIN, is the reason for all of this.
 
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