Shalom, veteran and terry.
Guys, you need to get the FRAMEWORK right before going into the details. Hanging sheet rock in a house doomed to collapse is not very wise. Ever hear the phrase "throwing good money after bad?" I believe that the "groundwork" you've supposedly laid is flawed. You have not formed a good foundation on which to build your theology. Without acknowledging the Jewishness of the prophecies, both in the Tanakh (the OT) and in the B'rit Chadashah (the NT), your interpretation of those prophecies is doomed for failure.
Dani'el 9:24-27 is somewhat cryptic for those who cannot read the Hebrew, even in the best English translations. It would be better NOT to start with Dani'el 9 for attempting to discover a foundation to your eschatology. If you build on Dani'el 9:24-27 without understanding what is SAID in Dani'el 9:24-27, how can you possibly get it right? You'd have about as much of a chance as a monkey pecking on a typewriter would have typing out a good, English sonnet!
You've allowed the rhetoric of the present viewpoints on prophecy to cloud your understanding of the prophecies given in the past! And, please don't quote me Matthew 24:15. Sure, Yeshua alluded to Dani'el, but that's assuming that, as a Jew, you would already have some idea of what Dani'el's book is saying. Frankly, that's a BAD assumption for one to make if he or she is NOT a Jew! If one cannot understand the basics, then how can one expect to know what's going on in the advanced course?
Would you expect a blue-collar worker to be able to pick up an article written by medical doctors for medical doctors and know that the article was talking about? Oh, they may be able to pronounce many of the words if they were to read it aloud, and they may even know (at a rudimentary level) was some of the words mean, but without the medical background and expertise, would they really be able to understand what the article was about? Of course not! And, the same is true for literature written in other languages for other cultures. The translators will do their best, but the truth is that, without the cultural background, the reader cannot truly understand what is written in that literature, despite the translators' best efforts!
Now, understand me: I am NOT saying that it is an "exclusive club," nor am I saying that the Ruach haQodesh (the Holy Spirit) can't help us to understand. On the other hand, what I AM saying is that the Ruach haQodesh is not going to do all the work for you and magically wave a wand and - POOF! it is going to take DILIGENT STUDY on one's part to get through the basics of the Jewish culture and language! If one truly wants to dig into the finer details of biblical prophecy, he or she is going to have to start with understanding the Jewish mindset! And, it wouldn't hurt to learn Hebrew and Aramaic as well.
The 'framework' only comes from understanding the 'details' first.
Daniel is not the only Scripture revealing the coming Antichrist for the end of this world. Supposed requirements to be a scholar in Hebrew is not necessary. A study of the 70 sevens prophecy in Daniel without associated study in the New Testament Books which give more information is like trying to build a foundation without foundation stones.
My perspective Veteran is, the covenant is first made and at that time the Daily sacrifice is taken and at that time the Jews are allowed to build the Temple. Ok, lets just loook at this from my perspective... The Muslims do not want sacrifices by the Jews on or near the Rock... including the courtyard and say it had been going on in the courtyard and the Jews wish to build the temple, so the Beast takes away this sacrifice and permits rebuilding the temple as part of the covenant (league). Next, when the A of D is committed, after the temple is build and including the inneranctum... this is when this Beast sets up to confirm (streghten) the covenant and in the process call himself messiah.
The "league" is made first, then the building of the temple, and then sacrifices begin and continue until the middle of Daniel's "one week", per Dan.9:27. The placing of the abomination of desolation is what ends the sacrifices, because the AOD will be a replacement for those sacrifices. The passover sacrifices the orthodox Jews of the Land of Israel and Temple Mount Faithful movement have been doing the past few years on a hill overlooking the temple mount are not those sacrifices of Daniel. Easy to know that because there's been no "league" associated with them like the Daniel prophecy requires.
Some Islamic clerics today recognize the history of Israel's temple on the temple mount. That's just something that doesn't make the nightly news. There's been proposals for a number of years now to allow the Jews to build their temple on the temple mount in an area that will not conflict with the Islamic Dome of The Rock.
God's Word will comes to pass as written. It's only a matter of time when all the required parameters of the prophecy fall in place. We may look and not see all the prophetic requirements coming to pass yet, but that doesn't mean they won't happen in time. Afterall, look how the profane disbelieved Noah about the flood.
The Daily sacrifice merely requires an Altar not the Temple. That does not mean the Jews will not want the Temple, just it is not an absolute necessity.
That is a completely independent idea apart from the Daniel prophecy. You're speculating outside the required parameters of fulfillment. The required prophetic parameters are not only in the Book of Daniel. They're also in NT Scripture like Matt.24:15, 2 Thess.2:3-4, and Rev.11:1-2.
I do not see where you are going by claiming I do not include the next verse as it claims it is sealed untl the time of the end... It is the time of the end.
I didn't say anything about looking at the next verse past Dan.12:11. I pointed you specifically back to the Dan.12:4-8 verses about the question in v.6 & v.8 in relation to that Dan.12:11 verse. So what's your problem with that? Why are you not willing to look at that?
Your explanation on why the Jews mourn differs from mine. I feel they mourn BECAUSE they finally understand Jesus is Lord and mour for all the wasted past they spent without knowing him.
It's not my explanation, it's what is written...
Zech 12:9-14
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon Me Whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.
(KJV)
Luke 23:27-30
27 And there followed Him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented Him.
28 But Jesus turning unto them said, "
Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for Me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
29
For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, 'Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.'
30
Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, 'Fall on us'; and to the hills, 'Cover us.'"
(KJV)
Where else is that idea written of the deceived in Jerusalem saying to the mountains, "Fall on us", and to the hills, "Cover us"?
Rev 6:14-16
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16
And said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him That sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb":
(KJV)
The idea is shame in knowing they fell away when Christ appears. That's why they will seek to hide in shame from Christ then, and want the mountains of hills to hide their shame. That's what that mourning of Zech.12 will be about.
It's easy to not become part of that group of deceived Jews that will do that when Jesus appears. Simply refuse to bow to the coming false messiah prepared to come to sit in the temple in Jerusalem just prior to Christ's coming.
