If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

[pittsburghjoe]

spanish inquisition
1 November 1478 - 15 July 1834

They were all about killing whoever didn't worship the image of the beast:

Revelation 13:15
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

There is something really weird about the disband date: 15 July 1834

half the year and half the month ..maybe related to "time, and times, and half a time"

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Weird location (Spain) for a monument to satan

Fountain of the Fallen Angel

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Matthew 24:15-16
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:​

Is the holy place in us? Is the abomination of desolation, satan's perception?

Mark 13:13-4
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:​

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If the three angels' messages (REV 14:6, 14:8, 14:9) already happened, does that mean the beasts in Rev 13 did also?

 

[CoreIssue]

the Papacy is the false prophet. the harlot is the Roman Catholic Church. The beast it rise on is mystery Babylon. Mystery Babylon is the culmination of the seven beasts of Daniel in the statute.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

little horn = papacy
whore = churchs' that bow to the papacy
false prophet = ? ..why can't it be the spanish inquisition?

I don't think there is a time frame between the second beast and Judgement.

If this stuff already happened ..it would mean the mark is already available. It's always been about God's Law/Love/Word vs the carnal perception.

Jesus didn't tell us the Temple is inside us for the fun of it.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Two Witnesses of Revelation 11

Fire came out of both mouths ..it was the Word of the Lord

They wore cheap clothing (sackcloth) ..it was in reference to the people spreading The Word during persecutions

1260 years is how long the Witnesses Testified

The Two Witnesses are the Old and New Testament

 

[CoreIssue]

The to witness are Enoch and Elijah, the only two men to be taking the heaven without dying. Since we only die once, they will die at mid tribulation. They testify for 3.5 years.

Are you a Seventh-day Adventist?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

One day in prophecy time is a year (1260 years)

"During that period for 1,260 days (or 42 months, or 3½ years)"

If the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11 are the Old and New Testament, why is anyone assuming there is going to be a third physical Temple?

 

[CoreIssue]

One day is not 1260 years.

The two witnesses are humans, not books.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

3½ years = 1,260 days ..do you see where 1260 years comes from?

 

[CoreIssue]

Seven Day Adventist Theology from a false prophet woman.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Don't you question the early Roman Catholic Church? Like seriously look at the history

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello

The beasts of Daniel. 7:2 are the four winds of heaven, i.e. spirits, i.e. angels that have rebelled against God.
The "beasts" rising up out of the sea, i.e. humanity, are people groups, kingdoms and empires, that manifest the domain characteristics of the respective beasts.
The Little Horn, exercises dominion over the four beasts.
In Daniel. 7:7-8 the little Horn is associated with the fourth beast and this beast is manifested in the people groups that follow the Islamic religion.
In Daniel. 8 the little Horn is associated with the Third Beast, which has 4 heads, during the 2,300 years of the Gentiles trampling the Sanctuary of God and His earthly hosts.

At the end of this age, God has prophesied that the Heavenly hosts in heaven and the kings of the earth will be judged and both the Heavenly Hosts and the Kings of the earth will be imprisoned in the (Bottomless) pit for many days to await the time of their punishment at the end of this present age. We are also told that the Bottomless pit will be unlocked for a little while when they will attempt once more to upsurge God before they are again captured and dispatched into the Lake of fire just before the end of the Millennium Age.

To claim that the Papacy is the first beast came into being when the German princes tried to demonise the Papacy and the Roman Catholic Church to assist them to remove the Papacy's power over them during the time of the reformation.

Sadly this desire to demonise the RCC and the Papacy still persists in some Christian denominations today.

Shalom

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Hello

The beasts of Daniel. 7:2 are the four winds of heaven, i.e. spirits, i.e. angels that have rebelled against God.
The "beasts" rising up out of the sea, i.e. humanity, are people groups, kingdoms and empires, that manifest the domain characteristics of the respective beasts.
The Little Horn, exercises dominion over the four beasts.
In Daniel. 7:7-8 the little Horn is associated with the fourth beast and this beast is manifested in the people groups that follow the Islamic religion.
In Daniel. 8 the little Horn is associated with the Third Beast, which has 4 heads, during the 2,300 years of the Gentiles trampling the Sanctuary of God and His earthly hosts.

At the end of this age, God has prophesied that the Heavenly hosts in heaven and the kings of the earth will be judged and both the Heavenly Hosts and the Kings of the earth will be imprisoned in the (Bottomless) pit for many days to await the time of their punishment at the end of this present age. We are also told that the Bottomless pit will be unlocked for a little while when they will attempt once more to upsurge God before they are again captured and dispatched into the Lake of fire just before the end of the Millennium Age.

To claim that the Papacy is the first beast came into being when the German princes tried to demonise the Papacy and the Roman Catholic Church to assist them to remove the Papacy's power over them during the time of the reformation.

Sadly this desire to demonise the RCC and the Papacy still persists in some Christian denominations today.

Shalom

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above,

Does this mean "Heaven", as in where Christ is? ..cause I think He just told us not to do crucifix statues. Knowing the Roman Catholics started it, makes we wonder if it is satan trying some type of mockery.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Spanish monarchy

"The Spanish Inquisition was unique in that it was established by secular rulers, King Ferdinand II and Queen Isabella, with the approval of Pope Sixtus IV. The monarchy was Catholic, and it had just united two kingdoms, Aragon and Castile, as a single country in the late 15th century."
via Nebuchadnezzer


two kingdoms ..two horns ..the second beast

 

[Illuminator]

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To claim that the Papacy is the first beast came into being when the German princes tried to demonise the Papacy and the Roman Catholic Church to assist them to remove the Papacy's power over them during the time of the reformation.

Sadly this desire to demonise the RCC and the Papacy still persists in some Christian denominations today.

Shalom

Indeed it does. The first 39 popes were killed by pagan Romans. Plus 1 more. This fact never appears on anti-Catholic web sites. Anti-Catholics quote "the blood of the martyrs" from Revelation, but can't name any of them. Equating the beast with Catholicism is a form of psychosis and spiritual blindness IMO. It's commonly found in the made-in-America cults and certain fundamentalist circles.
Hunt-ing the Whore of Babylon: Part I
Hunt-ing the Whore of Babylon: Part II

 

[Illuminator]

Spanish monarchy

"The Spanish Inquisition was unique in that it was established by secular rulers, King Ferdinand II and Queen Isabella, with the approval of Pope Sixtus IV. The monarchy was Catholic, and it had just united two kingdoms, Aragon and Castile, as a single country in the late 15th century."
via Nebuchadnezzer

two kingdoms ..two horns ..the second beast

The 1994 BBC/A&E production, "The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition" exposes the common understanding that the Inquisition was a vast pogrom of non Catholics as largely the creation of Protestant propaganda.
The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (catholiceducation.org)

If the second beast is the Spanish Inquisition, then logically the Protestant Inquisition is the third. The madness never ends.

 

[CoreIssue]

Inquisition