The Serpent Seed Theology [removed from another thread]

[n2thelight]

If Genesis 1 is not the straightforward written account of what actually happened with Adam and Eve who disobeyed God and caused the Fall, then the rest of the Bible is meaningless, and there is no Jesus, no cross, and no salvation. Therefore you have no hope when you die.

Please elaborate

The whole purpose of satan having sex with Eve was to prevent the line that Christ would come through,it had to be pure .Eve had twins ,one from satan(cain)one from Adam (Abel)

That attempt failed ,then he sent his angels in Gen 6 that failed as well .That's why it's stated that Noah was perfect,meaning not that he didn't sin,but that his daughters hadn't mingled with the fallen angels,meaning the line that Christ would come was still pure.

What one needs to understand is that satan knows the Word better than most Christians,he just twist it,in the same manner he tempted Christ.

But anyway that failed,then what did he(satan)do?Herod who killed every son under the age of 5.That failed as well ,of course that failed as well,then what happened?He tried to tempt Christ

 

[101G]

Please elaborate

The whole purpose of satan having sex with Eve was to prevent the line that Christ would come through,it had to be pure .Eve had twins ,one from satan(cain)one from Adam (Abel)

That attempt failed ,then he sent his angels in Gen 6 that failed as well .That's why it's stated that Noah was perfect,meaning not that he didn't sin,but that his daughters hadn't mingled with the fallen angels,meaning the line that Christ would come was still pure.

What one needs to understand is that satan knows the Word better than most Christians,he just twist it,in the same manner he tempted Christ.

But anyway that failed,then what did he(satan)do?Herod who killed every son under the age of 5.That failed as well ,of course that failed as well,then what happened?He tried to tempt Christ

satan having sex with Eve? where do such nonsense come from. my God...

What one needs to understand is that satan knows the Word better than most Christians,he just twist it,in the same manner he tempted Christ.

knowing the word, and "UNDERSTANDING" the word are two different animals.and this is where men make their fatal mistake,

PICJAG.

 

[Dcopymope]

Please elaborate

The whole purpose of satan having sex with Eve was to prevent the line that Christ would come through,it had to be pure .Eve had twins ,one from satan(cain)one from Adam (Abel)

(Genesis 4:1) "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."

.....Where are you getting this rubbish from about Satan banging Eve to conceive Cain?

 

[Paul Christensen]

Please elaborate

The whole purpose of satan having sex with Eve was to prevent the line that Christ would come through,it had to be pure .Eve had twins ,one from satan(cain)one from Adam (Abel)

That attempt failed ,then he sent his angels in Gen 6 that failed as well .That's why it's stated that Noah was perfect,meaning not that he didn't sin,but that his daughters hadn't mingled with the fallen angels,meaning the line that Christ would come was still pure.

What one needs to understand is that satan knows the Word better than most Christians,he just twist it,in the same manner he tempted Christ.

But anyway that failed,then what did he(satan)do?Herod who killed every son under the age of 5.That failed as well ,of course that failed as well,then what happened?He tried to tempt Christ

If Satan had sex with Eve, which is an impossibility because Angels don't have sex with humans, then sin didn't enter the world with Adam, therefore there is no gospel of Christ, and you are still dead in your sins and will be lost in eternity.

 

[Dcopymope]

If Satan had sex with Eve, which is an impossibility because Angels don't have sex with humans, then sin didn't enter the world with Adam, therefore there is no gospel of Christ, and you are still dead in your sins and will be lost in eternity.

Not that angels can't "leave their first estate" to have sex with humans. Its quite clear they did in Genesis 6. the real issue is there is no basis for believing Satan had anything to do with Cain's conception, since it quite plainly states it was between Adam and Eve.

 

[101G]

Not that angels can't "leave their first estate" to have sex with humans. Its quite clear they did in Genesis 6. the real issue is there is no basis for believing Satan had anything to do with Cain's conception, since it quite plainly states it was between Adam and Eve.

ERROR, angles did not have sex in Genesis 6 or any Genesis. that's just simple nonesense. Luke 20:34 "And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: (can the Lord Jesus lie? no.
Luke 20:35 "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luke 20:36 "Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

PICJAG.

 

[Dcopymope]

ERROR, angles did not have sex in Genesis 6 or any Genesis. that's just simple nonesense. Luke 20:34 "And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: (can the Lord Jesus lie? no.
Luke 20:35 "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luke 20:36 "Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
PICJAG.

Nothing about this scripture explicitly states "angels cannot have sex with humans". Just because Gods holy angels did not have sex with humans doesn't mean the fallen ones didn't. Jesus here is only saying that we won't HAVE to marry and procreate because we gain immortality in the resurrection just like the angels are immortal.

 

[101G]

now that the Lord Jesus put an end to that nonesense of angels marring and having sex with earth women, which Covers Eve having sex with Satan lie. the scriptures are clear, Luke 20:34 "And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage"

Genesis 6:2 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose". if anyone from here on out say angels married, and had sex with earth women, then they are not A. believing the Lord Jesus, nor following him, but believing the devil, and following the devil.

PICJAG.

 

[CharismaticLady]

no angel has ever had sexual relationship with man kind. as in days of naoh is reference to the intermarrying /perversions between the descendants of cain evil seth Godly

What descendants of Cain? They were all killed in the flood.

 

[101G]

Nothing about this scripture explicitly states "angels cannot have sex with humans". Just because Gods holy angels did not have sex with humans doesn't mean the fallen ones didn't. Jesus here is only saying that we won't HAVE to marry and procreate because we gain immortality in the resurrection just like the angels are immortal.

you still are ignorant to the word of God. Hebrews 1:7 "And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire". angels don't have flesh and blood?. bingo.. are the light blubs coming on now?

show one scripture of any angel becoming human and having childrens.

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

lets let the Lord Jesus put an end to this nonesense once and for all. Hebrews 1:7 "And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire". lets see is angels have flesh because fles reproduce flesh. scripture, Luke 24:36 "And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luke 24:37 "But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luke 24:38 "And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have". THERE ARE THE LORD JESUS WORDS, CAN JESUS LIE?

so angels who are spirits don't have flesh nor bone, for flesh begets flesh. how easy.

PICJAG

 

[101G]

so Dcopymope, that takes care of your none married angles too. you need to listen to your signature, “"If you can't explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough."

2 Timothy 3:7

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

well now all those who thought that those "sons of God" at Genesis 6 were angels, the Lord Jesus said no, so now you need to account for who they are?......

PICJAG.

 

[Dcopymope]

you still are ignorant to the word of God. Hebrews 1:7 "And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire". angels don't have flesh and blood?. bingo.. are the light blubs coming on now?

show one scripture of any angel becoming human and having childrens.

PICJAG.

This tells us nothing about what a "spirit" actually is. The most we know about "spirits" is that they are something not of this material existence, that's about it. Yes, they are "spirits", which is no basis whatsoever for limiting them as "spirits" because for one, we know next to nothing about it, although you pretend to know, and two, they are depicted as materializing in human form throughout the book. This of course is always conveniently ignored whenever the idea that they can procreate with humans is dismissed. Now as far as what angels are in relation to us, Paul pretty much defines what they are as a higher form of what we are as creatures, not a different creature or kind. This is why they are called "sons of God", because like Adam, they are the image of God in their own way. Its certainly not just because they are direct creations of God, otherwise we might as well call the first kind of every creature the "image bearers of God".

(Hebrews 2:6-9) "But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? {7} Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: {8} Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. {9} But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

(Psalms 8:4-5) "What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? {5} For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour."

 

[101G]

This tells us nothing about what a "spirit" actually is. The most we know about "spirits"

"the most we know?", ..... lol leave me out of your "WE". it's U don't know anything about any spirit.

(Hebrews 2:7-9) "Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: {8} Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. {9} But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

this is just what I'm talking about, ingorance is bliss. the Lord Jesus is not an angle... he is God... lol, you didn't know that did you?...

oh well as said, 2 Timothy 3:7

next..

PICJAG.

 

[CharismaticLady]

lets let the Lord Jesus put an end to this nonesense once and for all. Hebrews 1:7 "And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire". lets see is angels have flesh because fles reproduce flesh. scripture, Luke 24:36 "And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luke 24:37 "But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luke 24:38 "And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have". THERE ARE THE LORD JESUS WORDS, CAN JESUS LIE?

so angels who are spirits don't have flesh nor bone, for flesh begets flesh. how easy.

PICJAG

Hebrews 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

 

[101G]

Hebrews 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

and? are they human? ....

this is JUST what I'm talking about, if one entertained the Lord they woun't know him either.

PICJAG

 

[CharismaticLady]

and? are they human? ....

this is JUST what I'm talking about, if one entertained the Lord they woun't know him either.

PICJAG

They appeared human, otherwise how could you be unaware? The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with the two angels that visited Lot.

 

[101G]

They appeared human, otherwise how could you be unaware? The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with the two angels that visited Lot.

did they? yes or no.

SEE, VAIN BABBLING, CAN YOU ACCEPT WHAT THE LORD JESUS HAS SAID?........

PICJAG.

 

[Dcopymope]

"the most we know?", ..... lol leave me out of your "WE". it's U don't know anything about any spirit.

(Hebrews 2:7-9) "Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: {8} Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. {9} But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

this is just what I'm talking about, ingorance is bliss. the Lord Jesus is not an angle... he is God... lol, you didn't know that did you?...

oh well as said, 2 Timothy 3:7

next..

PICJAG.

......You just know that a person doesn't actually have a real argument when all they can do is throw ad hominiem insults at people, calling them "ignorant" and such. You think it makes you look good, it really only makes you look weak. Just stop it OK, you ain't impressing anyone. When Jesus was born into this world, he took on the form of a human as a living soul, which are lower forms than the angels that are living spirits. When he was resurrected from the dead, he became a new creation, crowned with glory, gaining immortality, where his body is no longer subject to decay and sickness like the angels in heaven. This is all that Paul is saying here, nothing more, nothing less. You call people ignorant yet you display your lack of understanding with the meaning of the text, that is so plain that even a child can understand it.