WHERE ARE ALL THE PROTESTANT PEDOPHILES?

[Phoneman777]

that is your standard Pm? Bam use it then, but consider how you might easily be deceived that way at least imo, ok. The papacy does not have antichrist all to itself, i'm pretty sure

You're obviously not a stupid person. Why can't you grasp what is so simple, then? The word "Anti-" means "in place of, in behalf of, instead of, for". And "Christos" means what you know it means. Therefore, "Antichrist" is one who takes "the place of Christ"; stands "in behalf of Christ", "in the stead of Christ" and "for Christ".

Q. Does the papacy claim to do this very thing?
Q. Does the papacy claim all the names, titles, attributes, and prerogatives of Christ also belong to the pope?
Q. Does the papacy condemn as a "heretic" anyone who refuses to accept these above to claims?
Q. Does the fact that Spurgeon wrote - "...and as to what Antichrist is, no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name" - cause you the least bit of curiosity as to what in the world did he and all those countless other Protestant Reformers read in the Bible to lead them to that conclusion?

 

[Phoneman777]

maybe the RCCs past sins are considered more newsworthy and serve to deflect ppls attention away from more important and actionable issues better, too. See how easy it is to dogpile onto the group that is already widely persecuted and has even confessed, but we aren't going to be talking about our whore-monger MSM or political leaders at all now, see, all of whom strenuously deny any wrongdoing, no confessions forthcoming at all iow.

The cure is to stop watching biased news, not start parrotting it imo

Maybe the leftist news media is doing its level best to ignore as far as possible the scandal, because the pope of this papacy is to them a gift from Zeus or Baal or whatever god they worship:

• constantly affirms that the myth of Climate Change is a real thing
• condemns Capitalism
• condemns border walls and promotes illegal border crossing of poor catholics into wealthy by comparison Protestant nations whose Protestant taxpayers will be separated from their wealth by "redistribution" in accordance with the papal encyclical "Rerum Novarum".
• affirms by no-contest that there is only one singular evil - "Christian religious fundamentalists" whose efforts to convert others through reason constitutes violence that is worse than actual radical religious fundamentalist violent terrorism.
• (by the papal global child sex abuse crime syndicate) promotes sexual deviancy in which leftists never cease to revel.

The question we should be asking is to what degree have the papal accomplices in the news media helped to keep hidden what others are trying to expose?

 

[Philip James]

Wow, just wow..

 

[brakelite]

First, the 'us' is anyone, particularly in the US, who is currently advocating an ecumenical union of sorts under the aegis of the present leaders of Protestantism, aka Copeland et al, amidst the euphoria engendered by certain clerics, some since deceased, that the Pope is the only logical leader of the global community, both religious and secular, a goal long held by the Vatican, but made more prominent publicly by the last 3 Popes in particular.
Prophecy declares that it is the choice of the people, amidst disaster and desperation, to place in the hands of government, the freedom and right to implement religious laws, which will be based on RCC principles and doctrine. So the warning is to everyone. But understand that deception is such that people will welcome Papal doctrines into their lives, even under secular laws, if they believe their personal survival depends on it. Hence the control over food and money supply pointed out by the context of the mark of the beast. There are many people out there bb who have no clue whatsoever what the agenda is, and they are going along with it in ignorance. They need to know who they are dealing with.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Why do you say it's unsubstantiated? Clearly, the Revelation was "signified" - written in symbolism - and was a message "unto His servants" - the church, not the Jews - and Revelation 2 and 3 condemns as blasphemous they who "say they are Jews and are not", which cannot refer to literal Jews because their "house is left unto them desolate", the kingdom was "taken from" them, they were natural branches "broken off", etc., which means that the word "Jews" is a prophetic symbol...and can only mean the church.

Because YOU made the following unsubstantiated claim:
"Jesus never turned His back on His church because the catholic church was never His church."

Whereas, I have substantiated that the Catholic Church is the same Church founded by Christ - YOU have YET to show us when he "turned His back" on His Church. IF Jesus turned His back on His Church - He would be nothing more than a liar - as YOU see Him.

I passed a beer joint one time in NOLA called "Paradise". The catholic church cannot trace its roots to the the time of Jesus because that church doesn't "keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" as did the church of Christ and His remnant church of these last days.

Another pathetically unsubstantiated claim.
On the contrary - only ONE Church can trace itself all the way back to the Apostles in an UNBROKEN line of Succession - and here's a hint:
It ain't any of your tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects . . .

God's church was preserved all through the reign of old Scarlet Harlot in Rome, through faithful Christians dwelling in the caves, mountains, and secluded places, busily keeping God's commandments, preserving His Word.

I couldn't agree with you more.
Seeing as how the Harlot of Rome is Jerusalem . . .

So - you FINALLY see that Christ's Church survived in the catacombs and other hiding places - while we were also spreading the Gospel to the world.

there's hope for you yet . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I have to agree with you.
Don't understand the reason for the huge problem...
It's also here in Italy. It's all over.
Maybe there are more catholic ministers involved because the church is bigger?
I don't know...anyway what kind of excuse would that be?

Priests are held to such a high esteem in the CC...they're PRIESTS, very respected especially by the older generation. They're supposed to be an example for the rest of us and look what we have to read. I've stopped reading about it in fact because it's so disturbing...it goes way beyond molestation.

Anyway, yes, keep up the good fight and we all should be right there behind you.

That's because you're content to wallow in Phoneyman's ignorance.
In other words - you agree because you ALSO have not done your homework . . .

 

[Philip James]

, the freedom and right to implement religious laws, which will be based on RCC principles and doctrine

Lol.. Are you kidding? If you said Islamic laws and doctrine I might agree with you...

Pax!

 

[bbyrd009]

seems like everyone needs someone to hate

Hence the control over food and money supply pointed out by the context of the mark of the beast.

ah, and you think the RCC is going to get control of your food and money, i take it

There are many people out there bb who have no clue whatsoever what the agenda is, and they are going along with it in ignorance.

ah, ok, well this convo was never about the RCC to me anyway, and you guys should def do as you feel led ok

 

[bbyrd009]

Why can't you grasp what is so simple, then?

why can't you answer a single question then?

It's really that simple.

all summed up, huh. Ok ty, i have a better idea where y'all are coming from now

 

[epostle]

Why do you say it's unsubstantiated? Clearly, the Revelation was "signified" - written in symbolism - and was a message "unto His servants" - the church, not the Jews - and Revelation 2 and 3 condemns as blasphemous they who "say they are Jews and are not", which cannot refer to literal Jews because their "house is left unto them desolate", the kingdom was "taken from" them, they were natural branches "broken off", etc., which means that the word "Jews" is a prophetic symbol...and can only mean the church.
I passed a beer joint one time in NOLA called "Paradise". The catholic church cannot trace its roots to the the time of Jesus because that church doesn't "keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" as did the church of Christ and His remnant church of these last days.
God's church was preserved all through the reign of old Scarlet Harlot in Rome, through faithful Christians dwelling in the caves, mountains, and secluded places, busily keeping God's commandments, preserving His Word.

Nonsensical conclusions based on biblical contortions.

What are you talking about? The most notorious Secret Society to ever exist is the Society of Jesus - the Jesuits. Many ex-Jesuits have come out of darkness and into the glorious light of Jesus and have revealed what really goes on in the papacy at great peril to their own lives. But, of course, you papists are quick to dismiss the claims of these brave men because the papacy says "we're guilty of nothing", right?

No. Unlike you, Catholics don't hide from the truth of history. We know there have been bad popes. Maybe 10 in all. But they didn't teach anything. Again and again, the "Bible-hate cults" make assertions with no evidence, no means of verification, and above all, no names are ever given. Go ahead, say, "Alberto Rivera". Make my day.

This is why the issue of papal leader child-sex abuse is so important

- it exposes catholic church leadership as a corrupt, dishonest, deceptive, untruthful, satanic, pagan global systematic child-sex abuse crime syndicate which cannot ever be trusted to tell the truth about anything at all, most notably the truth of salvation in Jesus Christ.

"Salvation by faith through grace alone" is a Catholic teaching the reformers borrowed. But you shake your fists so hard you punch your self in the face. You can't see it, refuse to see it because if you did, your religion of Catholic bashing would come tumbling down. The truth is a threat to your system of hate and lies. The sex abuse charge against the Catholic Church has been beaten to death in this forum, and every time some sadist brings it up, it backfires. When a cleric commits a sex crime, the policy is to call the police. When a SDA commits a sex crime, the policy is to cover it up. Don't even go there. I will not be baited to be like you.

I haven't found "a" anything. Great men of God under the aegis of the Holy Spirit discovered "the" Antichrist, y'know, the one we're supposed to be warning people about so they can come out of it before it's too late?
I've yet to write anything as offensive as this. Have you any idea what an insult that is to sincere catholics who know only but the lies they've been told? God says, "and in times ignorance, God winks at". We ought to just heed His directive to give the warning and let Him judge who is His and is not.
I've no need to reflect on anything. The message is God's and needs no tuning or adjustment: (1) Announce the identify of the Babylonian Beast system - the papacy, her harlot daughters, and paganism. (2) Call My people out of Babylonian darkness into My marvelous light before it's too late. (3) Teach them whatsoever things I have commandment you, watch, and be ready for My soon return. It's really that simple.

You keep saying the Pope is not in the Bible, but he is the anti-Christ. Make up your mind.

Willie T, do you mean to tell us that you don't know that from since the time of Martin Luther until just about 150 years ago, every single Protestant man, woman, child, toddler, infant, fetus, zygote, X, and Y chromosome believed, preached, and taught that the Antichrist of Bible prophecy was none other than the papacy in Rome?

That was politics, not bible prophecy. The Protestant Revolt affected a limited number of countries. Your hyperbole is false.

Are you under an impression that the Protestant Reformation was the result of a bunch of prideful church infighting over trivial matters which led to a split, and do not know that the twin pillars of the Reformation were (1) salvation by faith through grace alone, and (2) the papacy is the Antichrist of Bible prophecy? Do you not know that "Left Behind" theology which features a future Antichrist in the person of a single evil man was a Jesuit idea sent into the world as a response to what Protestants for over 300 years taught without exception about the Antichrist being in Rome? Please Google anything you can on "Historicism" and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

On the Historicity of Jesus, by Richard Carrier . Tries to prove the "Christ Myth" theory...modernism; intellectual garbage.

 

[Phoneman777]

Because YOU made the following unsubstantiated claim:
"Jesus never turned His back on His church because the catholic church was never His church."

The catholic church as it stands today cannot trace its doctrines, rituals, sacraments, etc., to the first century church of Christ, period:

• not the confessional
• not the intercession of Mary
• not the intercession of "catholic saints"
• not the intercession of the catholic priesthood
• not the "assumption of Mary"
• not "Extra (catholic) Ecclesiam Nulla Salas" ("no salvation outside the catholic church)
• not Peter as the so-called "first pope"
• not praying to the dead
• not heathen repetitious prayers of the rosary
• not the presumptuous placement of catholic tradition on equal footing with inspired Scripture
• not veneration of images
• not veneration of statues
• not veneration of (death cult) relics (bones or other remains claimed to be that of dead Christians)
• not the "DEAD BREAD" Eucharist wafer
• not the putrefied "booze" of fermented grape juice as representative of Jesus' pure blood
• not the food/drink offerings to "St. Joseph"
• not the catholic church's full acceptance of the theory of evolution
• not Purgatory
• not the sale of indulgences in order to reduce duration/obtain release for those in Purgatory
• not Easter as observed in honor of Jesus' death
• not Christmas observed in honor of Jesus' birth
• ...and, of course, you'll have no problem agreeing with me on this next point, and if you do, you will need to go to the nearest catholic church, knock on the door, and surrender your catholic credentials to the first person you see, for any catholic priest, cardinal, or pope who has at least two brain cells banging around together in their heads will not hesitate to attest to this...
• NOT ONE SINGLE VERSE AUTHORIZING THE SUBSTITUTION OF THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK - SUNDAY - FOR THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK AS THE DAY GOD ESTABLISHED FOR SABBATH OBSERVANCE (ALTHOUGH PLENTY OF SATANIC SUN WORSHIP CAN BE FOUND IN CHRIST'S DAY AND BEFORE)

Seeing as how the Harlot of Rome is Jerusalem . . .

The Scarlet Harlot which rides the Beast is the catholic church directing the state to persecute God's faithful - has nothing to do with Jerusalem.

So - you FINALLY see that Christ's Church survived in the catacombs and other hiding places - while we were also spreading the Gospel to the world.

The church at large you describe here did not know anything about the above bullets, and any ECF that sought to interject such nonsense held an extreme minority opinion and was either deceived himself or an agent of Satanic deception.

 

[Phoneman777]

why can't you answer a single question then?

Which is?

 

[Phoneman777]

Nonsensical conclusions based on biblical contortions.

Lotsa brilliant Bible believing Christian men believed that very thing, and many were killed by the church that you defend.

No. Unlike you, Catholics don't hide from the truth of history.

From what truth do I hide? And if a church hides the truth (of pedophile priest child-sex abuse promotion, cover up, and concealment from public), what need is there for that church to hide from the truth?

When a SDA commits a sex crime, the policy is to cover it up.

While I agree that no church should cover up a sex scandal, but have you any evidence of such a cover up, or anything suggesting that other churches are guilty of even a fraction of a percentage point of which the papacy has been exposed as guilty?

You keep saying the Pope is not in the Bible, but he is the anti-Christ. Make up your mind.

What I mean is the office of the papacy is not a Biblically established institution but is mentioned on the prophetic pages of the Bible as an institution predicted to arise and oppose God. Why can't you admit that the word "Anti-Christ" is the most appropriate description that can be made to represent the office of the papacy - to stand "in stead of", "in behalf of", "in place of" Christ? That is exactly what the papacy claims to do! Don't be offended by it, just own it.

The Protestant Revolt affected a limited number of countries.

Yes, the Protestant Reformation was such a minor hiccup in the history of catholicism that halfway into the 16th century when the catholic church had hemorrhaged thousands upon thousands of members, the Council of Trent had to be convened in order to find a way to deal with the situation that was so desperate that it took them EIGHTEEN YEARS to finally adjourn - the longest council in the history of the papacy.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The catholic church as it stands today cannot trace its doctrines, rituals, sacraments, etc., to the first century church of Christ, period:

• not the confessional
• not the intercession of Mary
• not the intercession of "catholic saints"
• not the intercession of the catholic priesthood
• not the "assumption of Mary"
• not "Extra (catholic) Ecclesiam Nulla Salas" ("no salvation outside the catholic church)
• not Peter as the so-called "first pope"
• not praying to the dead
• not heathen repetitious prayers of the rosary
• not the presumptuous placement of catholic tradition on equal footing with inspired Scripture
• not veneration of images
• not veneration of statues
• not veneration of (death cult) relics (bones or other remains claimed to be that of dead Christians)
• not the "DEAD BREAD" Eucharist wafer
• not the putrefied "booze" of fermented grape juice as representative of Jesus' pure blood
• not the food/drink offerings to "St. Joseph"
• not the catholic church's full acceptance of the theory of evolution
• not Purgatory
• not the sale of indulgences in order to reduce duration/obtain release for those in Purgatory
• not Easter as observed in honor of Jesus' death
• not Christmas observed in honor of Jesus' birth
• ...and, of course, you'll have no problem agreeing with me on this next point, and if you do, you will need to go to the nearest catholic church, knock on the door, and surrender your catholic credentials to the first person you see, for any catholic priest, cardinal, or pope who has at least two brain cells banging around together in their heads will not hesitate to attest to this...
• NOT ONE SINGLE VERSE AUTHORIZING THE SUBSTITUTION OF THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK - SUNDAY - FOR THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK AS THE DAY GOD ESTABLISHED FOR SABBATH OBSERVANCE (ALTHOUGH PLENTY OF SATANIC SUN WORSHIP CAN BE FOUND IN CHRIST'S DAY AND BEFORE)

And this is all based on the simple fact that YOU are totally ignorant of Scripture.
The Early Christians met on the LORD'S DAY - the FIRST day of the week - NOT the seventh day (Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2, Rev. 1:10).

Jesus reaffirmed that the Sabbath was made for MAN - NOT man for the Sabbath.

In Col. 2:16, we read where St. Paul tells us, “Let no one, then, pass judgment on you in matters of food and drink or with regard to a festival or new moon or sabbath.”

As for the rest - Jesus gave His Church Supreme Authority - that WHATEVER it ordains on earth wold ALSO be ordained in Heaven (Matt. 16:180-190, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).

The Scarlet Harlot which rides the Beast is the catholic church directing the state to persecute God's faithful - has nothing to do with Jerusalem.

No - even most PROTESTANT scholars agree that the Whore of Babylon is apostate Jerusalem, Einstein . . .
https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/revelation/related-topics/babylon-is-jerusalem.html
Chapter 4: The Evidence For Jerusalem As The Harlot | Bible.org
THE WHORE OF BABYLON - REVELATION - Defending The Bride
Understanding Revelation: Babylon = Jerusalem - Bamboozled Believers by Michael Biehler
Part 1 APOSTATE JERUSALEM is the WHORE of BABYLON By ...

The Whore is "drunk on the blood of the prophets".
Jesus rebukes Jerusalem for murdering the Prophets in Matt. 23:37, echoing Isaiah's rebuke:
Isaiah 1:21
See how Jerusalem, once so faithful, has become a prostitute. Once the home of justice and righteousness, she is now filled with murderers.

You're not very bright when it comes to Biblical interpretation - ARE you??
Do your HOMEWORK . . .

The church at large you describe here did not know anything about the above bullets, and any ECF that sought to interject such nonsense held an extreme minority opinion and was either deceived himself or an agent of Satanic deception.

I take it you're still angry because I pointed out that history is SILENT about your tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering sects of Protestantism until AFTER the 16th century??
That's what I thought . . .

 

[Heart2Soul]

You're not very bright when it comes to Biblical interpretation - ARE you??
Do your HOMEWORK . . .

You scare me....lol....such harsh words....my ex-boyfriend grew up Catholic and he had to go to a Catholic school and he said they were very strict and quick to punish any perceived disrespect towards the church or the staff so I can understand where this defensive nature comes from.....But I still think they have a great outreach program...many outreach programs.

 

[Phoneman777]

And this is all based on the simple fact that YOU are totally ignorant of Scripture. The Early Christians met on the LORD'S DAY - the FIRST day of the week - NOT the seventh day (Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2, Rev. 1:10).

Dead Bread, I'm calling Jorge and reporting you as a heretic for claiming that Sunday observance is in the Bible. The catholic church has always claimed to have by its own divine power and by no authority from Scripture changed the day of worship.

From The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine:

Q. Which day is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. The catholic church at the Council of Laodicea transferred the solemnity of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

Q. Does the church have the power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she had not such power, she would not have been able to do that with which all modern religionists agree: she would not have able to change the Sabbath from Saturday, the seventh day of the week, to Sunday, the first day of the week, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.

 

[epostle]

You scare me....lol....such harsh words....my ex-boyfriend grew up Catholic and he had to go to a Catholic school and he said they were very strict and quick to punish any perceived disrespect towards the church or the staff so I can understand where this defensive nature comes from.....But I still think they have a great outreach program...many outreach programs.

Note who BoL is addressing. A made-in-America mind controlling cult that spends more resources on bashing Catholicism than on acts of mercy. They are also anti-Protestant. The SDA are worst trolls in this board. I have them on ignore because my replies would be against the rules. It's not disrespect, it's not disagreement. It's persecution.

 

[bbyrd009]

Which is?

the ones that characterize your efforts, but nevermind Pm, i agree you have to do what you think is right ok.

 

[GodsGrace]

Why do you say it's unsubstantiated? Clearly, the Revelation was "signified" - written in symbolism - and was a message "unto His servants" - the church, not the Jews - and Revelation 2 and 3 condemns as blasphemous they who "say they are Jews and are not", which cannot refer to literal Jews because their "house is left unto them desolate", the kingdom was "taken from" them, they were natural branches "broken off", etc., which means that the word "Jews" is a prophetic symbol...and can only mean the church.
I passed a beer joint one time in NOLA called "Paradise". The catholic church cannot trace its roots to the the time of Jesus because that church doesn't "keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" as did the church of Christ and His remnant church of these last days.
God's church was preserved all through the reign of old Scarlet Harlot in Rome, through faithful Christians dwelling in the caves, mountains, and secluded places, busily keeping God's commandments, preserving His Word.

Why do you hate the CC so much?
Every church has it's problems with doctrine...do you know of a church that is perfect in its doctrine?

I can't remember, I think I've spoken to you about this before...
The CC is the ONLY church that can trace its roots back to the Apostles.
This is a historical fact and cannot be denied. If you don't believe this, let me know where the break occurs.

This does NOT mean I agree with catholic doctrine...but we have to be intellectually honest with what we say.

You don't want to pray to Mary?
Don't.
You don't want to go to confession?
Don't.
You can't believe in purgatory?
Don't.
You don't agree with sanctification?
Don't.

We have enough problems in Protestantism to be worried about the catholics.
Anyway, hate is not in the Christian language.

 

[GodsGrace]

That's because you're content to wallow in Phoneyman's ignorance.
In other words - you agree because you ALSO have not done your homework . . .

I don't listen to Phoneman or anyone....I have my own mind which I can use.

And which homework are you referring to?
The homework which makes my stomach turn to read about the accusations which are most probably correct since there are so many of them?j
The homework that makes me understand that children's lives have been damaged?

This morning I was driving home and a mother with two small children was walking up in the opposite direction. When she saw the car, she pushed the children against the curb and held them there (no sidewalks).

THIS is what we're supposed to do to children...protect them.
I'm very upset over all this...