Will Jesus Christ Rule On This Earth In A Millennium, With A (Rod Of Iron)?

[Truth7t7]

Jesus dosent take a (Rod Of Iron) to reign upon this earth as many suggest

Jesus Christ returns and "Destroys" with a (Rod Of Iron), just as a potter destroys his vessels

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

 

[Enoch111]

Will Jesus Christ Rule On This Earth In A Millennium With A (Rod Of Iron)?

Since that is exactly what the Bible says, why are you trying to contradict this truth almost daily? You have a serious problem.

 

[Truth7t7]

Since that is exactly what the Bible says, why are you trying to contradict this truth almost daily? You have a serious problem.

Fact is, Jesus Destroys with a rod of Iron, just as a potter destroys his vessels

There is no truth to be contradicted, because Jesus wont be sitting on a throne of David in a Millennium on this earth, ruling with a rod of iron

I Have No serious problem as you suggest, thats your opinion, and it's my opinion your wrong

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Enoch111]

Fact is, Jesus Destroys with a rod of Iron, just as a potter destroys his vessels

Not "fact" but "false". The rod of iron is a metaphor for the righteous rule of Christ which will not tolerate sin and evil. Not for destruction but for ruling. And Christ sits on His own throne, while David is prince over Israel. So David's throne is David's throne even though Christ has the legal right to that throne. See Ezekiel.

 

[Truth7t7]

Not "fact" but "false". The rod of iron is a metaphor for the righteous rule of Christ which will not tolerate sin and evil. Not for destruction but for ruling. And Christ sits on His own throne, while David is prince over Israel. So David's throne is David's throne even though Christ has the legal right to that throne. See Ezekiel.

Fact, the (Rod Of Iron) is a tool of destruction, and this is exactly what the Lord will do as he will present the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God upon the world at his return

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

 

[Timtofly]

Fact, the (Rod Of Iron) is a tool of destruction, and this is exactly what the Lord will do as he will present the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God upon the world at his return

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

You left out some verses indicating an ongoing rule. Why is that? Do you think that some will need to be destroyed even after the NHNE? Will there be eternal rebellion that needs to be dealt with? That is your implication by not quoting all verses you have removed.

 

[Truth7t7]

You left out some verses indicating an ongoing rule. Why is that? Do you think that some will need to be destroyed even after the NHNE? Will there be eternal rebellion that needs to be dealt with? That is your implication by not quoting all verses you have removed.

No verses are removed, as the OP teaches the rod of iron is a tool of destruction, not a scepter to reign on this earth as many suggest

 

[Timtofly]

No verses are removed, as the OP teaches the rod of iron is a tool of destruction, not a scepter to reign on this earth as many suggest

What about this rule? What is different?

Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

 

[Abaxvahl]

Jesus dosent take a (Rod Of Iron) to reign upon this earth as many suggest

Jesus Christ returns and "Destroys" with a (Rod Of Iron), just as a potter destroys his vessels

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Amen, it is a fierce judgment and not a reign upon this Earth physically. I am not even sure where people got that idea as Him being on this Earth like a human King ruling it during a millennium is not present in the Scriptures.

 

[GISMYS_7]

Easy to understand verse===Jesus===Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall ""rule them"" with a rod of iron

 

[Truth7t7]

Amen, it is a fierce judgment and not a reign upon this Earth physically. I am not even sure where people got that idea as Him being on this Earth like a human King ruling it during a millennium is not present in the Scriptures.

I agree, the standard false teaching in dispensationalism, taking the tool of destruction in the (Rod Of Iron) and changing it into a scepter for Jesus to reign on earth in a Millennium, a big "Fairy Tale"!

 

[Truth7t7]

What about this rule? What is different?

Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

All verses presented represents the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven And Earth

 

[Truth7t7]

Easy to understand verse===Jesus===Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall ""rule them"" with a rod of iron

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

 

[Oseas]

First there will be War in this present heavenly place . 1 Thes. 4:v.16 - The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice -the message- of the ARCHANGEL - MICHAEL - , and with the trump -message- of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

Revelation 12:v.7-17
7 And there was WAR heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the MAN Dragon (a former cherub-the old serpent - the son of perdition, the MAN of sin); and the Dragon fought and his angels - his followers -, 2 Corinthians 11:v.13 to 15

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great Dragon -the former cherub- was (will be) cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was (will be) cast out into the earth, and his messengers were (will be) cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (even NOW) is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our GOD-Luke 20:v.35-36 among others -, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb - by the blood of JESUS - , and by the WORD of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. - include Michael because will be in flesh and bones -

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens (Ephesians 1:v.3), and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth(ISRAEL) and of the sea!-PEOPLES, AND NATIONS, AND MULTITUDES OF ALL TONGUES- for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

THE BATTLE, THE WAR- STILL CONTINUES

13 And when the Dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were (will be) given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is (will be) nourished for a time, and times, and half a time -1260 days -, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth(Israel-the 144K) helped (will help) the woman, and the earth opened (will open)her mouth, and will swallow up the flood which the MAN Dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the Dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. -The testimony of JESUS Christ is the Spirit of prophecy -


Be careful or get ready because Revelation 22:v.18 to 20 - The Word is GOD -
18 For I testify unto every MAN (the belivers include)that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: -THIS WILL FULFILL LITERALLY -

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

 

[Truth7t7]

First there will be War in this present heavenly place . 1 Thes. 4:v.16 - The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice -the message- of the ARCHANGEL - MICHAEL - , and with the trump -message- of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

Revelation 12:v.7-17
7 And there was WAR heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the MAN Dragon (a former cherub-the old serpent - the son of perdition, the MAN of sin); and the Dragon fought and his angels - his followers -, 2 Corinthians 11:v.13 to 15

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great Dragon -the former cherub- was (will be) cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was (will be) cast out into the earth, and his messengers were (will be) cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (even NOW) is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our GOD-Luke 20:v.35-36 among others -, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb - by the blood of JESUS - , and by the WORD of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. - include Michael because will be in flesh and bones -

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens (Ephesians 1:v.3), and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth(ISRAEL) and of the sea!-PEOPLES, AND NATIONS, AND MULTITUDES OF ALL TONGUES- for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

THE BATTLE, THE WAR- STILL CONTINUES

13 And when the Dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were (will be) given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is (will be) nourished for a time, and times, and half a time -1260 days -, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth(Israel-the 144K) helped (will help) the woman, and the earth opened (will open)her mouth, and will swallow up the flood which the MAN Dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the Dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. -The testimony of JESUS Christ is the Spirit of prophecy -


Be careful or get ready because Revelation 22:v.18 to 20 - The Word is GOD -
18 For I testify unto every MAN (the belivers include)that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: -THIS WILL FULFILL LITERALLY -

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Nice scripture, but what does it have in relationship to the (Rod Of Iron)?

 

[Oseas]

The righteous Judgments of GOD are the Rod of Iron. What does the Word of GOD say?

The Lord's voice crieth unto the city, and the man of wisdom shall see thy name: HEAR YOU THE ROD, and who hath appointed it. Micah 6:v.9 - With the Rod of Iron the waters (peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues) shall be turned to blood.

On the other hand, your rod and who has a rod like yours, it can become a serpent, and if the rod you and others are using - your message - become a serpent, certainly the Rod of Iron will swallow up your rod - Exodus 7:v.12 - The Word is GOD -

Números 17:v.6 to 11
6 And Moses spake unto the children of Israel, and every one of their princes gave him a rod apiece, for each prince one, according to their fathers' houses, even twelve rods: and the rod of Aaron was among their rods.

7 And Moses laid up the rods before the Lord in the tabernacle of witness.

8 And it came to pass, that on the morrow Moses went into the tabernacle of witness; and, behold, the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi was budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds.

9 And Moses brought out all the rods from before the Lord unto all the children of Israel: and they looked, and took every man his rod.

10 And the Lord said unto Moses, Bring Aaron's rod again before the testimony, to be kept for a token against the rebels; and thou shalt quite take away their murmurings from me, that they die not.

11 And Moses did so: as the Lord commanded him, so did he.

 

[nenagana]

The Answer is No (No to Christ Reigning with a Rod of Iron, or anyone else)

Statement

GENESIS 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
(This is Fornication, with "Eve", It had no Value, Cain and his Generations were put to death)
GENESIS 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
(This is with his "Serpent/Soulmate", She produced fruit again and Abel was formed)
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(Moses killed a Man, whatever that meant, either he tried to reign or etc, and God viewed that as fornication, wasted fruit)
(Moses was Given his Serpent, and Fruit was produced, ("Moses and Aaron", God didn't reveal much about the relationship, which is the "pyramid builder and his soulmate" at that time, that is the direct answer)
(God allowed his Soulmate to give the law to isreal)

(Relating to the "Rod of Iron", New Testament)

1. God called Moses and his Serpent/Soulmate........"Moses and Aaron"
2. God called Lazarus and his Serpent/Soulmate........"Lazarus and Abraham's Bosom

God uses two male names instead of "man and women" names, to denote the difference, in man's accountability for its dead flesh accusation with god.

"The Rod of Iron" identifies with the "New Spirit God/Jesus sends forth he said he would" (the prince of the power of the air or lord of the air).............this does not mean it is profitable.............it denotes truth in the dead flesh controversy of human dirth suppressing the earth's unified field.

The Primary thing God does is "rot the body", mankind either sufferings cyclically, or answer's god, this cycle of revelation has been the new testament trend, and mankind has always put this away. So, things can still happen and be revealed.................God's Mercies is for the benefit and revival of the people and most of that takes place off world, with no explicit expectation that mankind will resolve this issue with god..............although its possible, death will be common place, but its more profitable for the faithful to be resolved, and often that means this earth remains a cesspool, that is man's accusation with god over its pleasures and sin.

(but think also about the way saul died, pierced with a rod, and King David did not bless that, its not a work for the son of man to resolve man's accusation with god, or to have a earthly King Ship, nonetheless God established the Ensign of Nations according to Isaiah) (and field disturbances really, will result in massive deaths, because of uncleanness, that is why it is said, in a few countries, for reproof, and mankind is held accountable for its own work and accusation with god) (is the proper, and somewhat historical way)

(I believe, we will learn more about "field theories" in the near future, but this is not war or a conflict of anykind with God or the Son of Man, as many lives can simply be snatched away, this is about man's answer god about its accusation)

 

[Taken]

Enoch111-
Agree.

...Rod...ie Heavenly Authority.
...Iron...ie Gods Word.

Not a secret...men have been given (by Heavenly Authority and Gods Word)...authority over the earth...men have ruled wth Gods Word and with mans word.

Not a secret....fallen angels have been given (by Heavenly Authority and Gods Word) authority to influence other angels and men.

Not a secret....Heavenly Authority and Gods Word...gives Power and takes Power.

Agree;
The Rod of Gods Authority SHALL prevail.
The Iron of Gods Word SHALL prevail.
Angels WITH God, SHALL remain "WITH' God.
Men WHO STAND "IN" and "WITH" God SHALL remain "WITH' God...
NOT...beaten down with an IRON ROD...

@Truth7t7

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[GISMYS_7]

Will you believe God's word or little men's words?? Rev. 2-27

 

[Truth7t7]

Enoch111-
Agree.

...Rod...ie Heavenly Authority.
...Iron...ie Gods Word.

Not a secret...men have been given (by Heavenly Authority and Gods Word)...authority over the earth...men have ruled wth Gods Word and with mans word.

Not a secret....fallen angels have been given (by Heavenly Authority and Gods Word) authority to influence other angels and men.

Not a secret....Heavenly Authority and Gods Word...gives Power and takes Power.

Agree;
The Rod of Gods Authority SHALL prevail.
The Iron of Gods Word SHALL prevail.
Angels WITH God, SHALL remain "WITH' God.
Men WHO STAND "IN" and "WITH" God SHALL remain "WITH' God...
NOT...beaten down with an IRON ROD...

@Truth7t7

Glory to God,
Taken

Jesus dosent take a (Rod Of Iron) to reign upon this earth as many suggest

Jesus Christ returns and "Destroys" with a (Rod Of Iron), just as a potter destroys his vessels

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.