WHERE ARE ALL THE PROTESTANT PEDOPHILES?

[GodsGrace]

I think y'all need to look at the big picture. @Phoneman is doing everybody a service very few others are willing to take on. You see, the world today is witnessing the tail end of the longest, greatest and most successful PR campaigns in secular human history...(the counter-reformation) it has been progressing since the 16th century, and of recent times has evolved into a global political election campaign which prophecy informs us will be just as successful, albeit short lived, as its predecessor. Phoneman is simply fulfilling the role of a senate investigation (which will never happen unfortunately) to bring to the public square any and all reasons why the public should accept the nomination of the Pope, whichever one may be in power at the time, as president of the world. God clearly disagrees with the nomination, and promises to destroy his party...its surprising so many believe such disclosures on the part of some should be silenced.

I have to agree with you.
The news I heard was shocking and I said so on a thread.
Children deserve our protection...we should all be horrified.

 

[Phoneman777]

Then, you're accusing Jesus of being a liar.
Jesus promised that HIS Church would NEVER succumb to the gates of Hell (Matt. 16:18).

You need to actually R*E*A*D Scripture to understand it . . .

Jesus never turned His back on His church because the catholic church was never His church. He turned His back on those who "say they are Jews and are, and do lie". "Jews" being the prophetic symbol of those who are part of the New Covenant that God made "with the house of Israel and the house of Judah" - the church.

 

[Phoneman777]

You have demonstrated long time ago that this is not about warning anyone--

"Judge not lest ye be judged" doesn't refer to judging another's actions - we are told to be fruit inspectors. It refers to judging motives and eternal destinies. Claiming my clearly stated motives are false is a textbook example of "taking the place of Christ" on His judgment seat - the work of Antichrist.

Yes, we are aware that satan corrupts the institutions of men, yet we are still advised to respect human institutions. Warning ppl occurs when a subject comes up and a warning becomes pertinent; you are on a crusade, as a glance at your thread list will verify.

There's not a single text in all of Scripture that says we're called to make the truth popular and inoffensive - but to preach it with power under the aegis of the Holy Spirit. The false gospel of the papacy makes the Cross null and void and yet you claim we're to respect what God says should be declared anathema? Not so, BB.

BTW, I've shown you that the actual modern Protestant sects are those who disagree with the twin pillars of the Protestant Reformation

• Ephesians 2:8-10
• the papacy is the Antichrist of prophecy

Since I agree with both, please stop referring to my beliefs as sectarian.

 

[Phoneman777]

I'm not following this thread, but I DO agree with the above.

It's a slippery slope. One thing leads to another.
I haven't understood what the problem is here...
Are YOU saying protestants also abuse children?
I'm sure every denomination has had this problem in their church.
I believe it's more prevalent in the CC,,also the cover up is a problem.
All popes and bishops have covered this up.
It's horrendous.

This thread was in response to those who claim the problem of faith-leader child sex abuse in Protestantism is worse than in the Rcc, which the evidence overwhelmingly refutes. Sure, there's a similar problem in non-catholic Christianity, but largely due to the fact that anyone can literally wake up and declare themselves "anointed of God" and start their own Bible church. Years ago, standards were much higher and leaders were held far more accountable, but in today's corrupt, increasingly liberal "emergent church" movement where the money hungry and sexually perverted know how easily they can exploit the members, the number of cases of abuse among Protestants is on the rise.

But, to suggest that the problem is worse than that of the global child-sex abuse crime syndicate that is the papacy is just plain ridiculous, as evidenced by the news reports that almost daily dominate the headlines.

 

[Phoneman777]

more reported, more like. They have less power than other power bases, so surely they have less pedophilia. Also note we are basically digging up ancient history, whereas we have a huge cabal of political world leaders eating orphans for breakfast this morning; you notice stuff like pizzagate gets quashed overnight. The RCC is obviously not even the subject here imo, that is strictly cover for what's really goin on

If you only knew how deeply the Rcc is entrenched in the Luciferian activities of the world. Check out The Secret Behind Secret Societies by Prof. Vieth.

 

[Phoneman777]

Or that Pm might have a little prob of his own that it would be less hypocritical to discuss.

I have a problem with people who by their irresponsible ignorance seek to lead lambs to the slaughter.

If Catholics do not qualify as Christians to one, then they are also judging someone else's servant

Your problem is lack of discipline. You've allowed yourself to be informed only enough to become revolted, rather than considering the full scope of the issue in its entirety.

Those who count the papacy as Antichrist do not condemn catholics as "not Christian".

God Himself says, "Come out of (Babylon) My people" and when you consider that "he that hath not the Spirit of God, he is none of His", the conclusion is that God has Spirit filled people that are His in the catholic church but is calling them to come out of the catholic church lest they "be partakers of her sins" and receive "of her plagues." By calling for the silencing of this message, you are undermining God's work, thinking you do God service.

 

[Willie T]

Gosh Willie, I don't think I could ever murder someone or molest a child or do many other things...how can you say anyone of us are capable of almost anything?

I doth protest!

Most people who find themselves on trial for murder (or any number of things) likewise, never thought they could ever do such a thing.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Jesus never turned His back on His church because the catholic church was never His church. He turned His back on those who "say they are Jews and are, and do lie". "Jews" being the prophetic symbol of those who are part of the New Covenant that God made "with the house of Israel and the house of Judah" - the church.

And that is just another desperate, unsubstantiated claim.

The fact is that the Church was being called "The CATHOLIC Church" by the end of the first century - while the Apostle John was STILL alive. In fact, we see it in the writings of HIS student, Ignatius of Antioch in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans.

Funny - I don't see "Baptist" or "Presbyterian" or "Reformed Evangelical" or "Lutheran" or "Methodist" or "Calvinist" or "Pentecostal", et al, until some 1500 years LATER . . .

 

[brakelite]

allowed yourself to be informed only enough to become revolted, rather than considering the full scope of the issue in its entirety.

Those who count the papacy as Antichrist do not condemn catholics as "not Christian".

God Himself says, "Come out of (Babylon) My people" and when you consider that "he that hath not the Spirit of God, he is none of His", the conclusion is that God has Spirit filled people that are His in the catholic church but is calling them to come out of the catholic church lest they "be partakers of her sins" and receive "of her plagues." By calling for the silencing of this message, you are undermining God's work, thinking you do God service.

Excellent. @bbyrd009 , there is a time of judgement pending in relation to historic crimes against and current lies and spiritual adultery of Babylon which the RCC must bear much of the responsibility. Yet God does have people in the midst of her, and God loves every one of them and is using people such as phone man his servants to earn and call God's people out, before the death sentence is passed upon that spare system. This message is not a hate message, but a love message. Scoff and object all you like... Protest that you have heard it all before... But there are many who live God with all their heart, living up to what light and understanding they have yet still abide in a system of faith that is failing them. And it seems you would rather them not hear the message? Muffle the barking dogs? Shoot the messenger because you are tired of hearing it? It's God's message ..

 

[epostle]

If you only knew how deeply the Rcc is entrenched in the Luciferian activities of the world. Check out The Secret Behind Secret Societies by Prof. Vieth.

There are no Secret Societies in the Catholic Church. Joining Freemasonry is automatic excommunication.

The Knights of Columbus is a men's charity organization. There are no secret oaths. Parliamentary procedure is followed. Finances are monitored under the Charitable Organization Act. There are rules of discretion the same as any registered charity. It amazes me the expertise these cults think they possess and have never been to a meeting.

by Joseph Heschmeyer - January 19, 2016

Thomas Hawk, Flickr


There have been a number of stories in the news lately of small Satanic groups publicly performing so-called “Black Masses.”

These rituals are based on the Catholic mass but are inverted toward Satan and often involve the desecration of a Eucharistic host.

This sort of thing is evil and should not be taken lightly. It’s also occurred to me, though, how these Black Masses offer a powerful argument for the truth of Catholicism.

[See also: Why Satan Is So Scared of St. John Paul II, According to Rome’s Chief Exorcist]

[See also: A Priest’s Warning Against the Devil’s 10 Deadliest Tricks]

The Eucharist is either Jesus or Evil
The Eucharist is either Jesus or mere bread and wine.

If the Eucharist is Jesus, everyone should be at Mass, worshipping Our Lord. If the Eucharist is Jesus, there should be no such thing as Protestantism, Mormonism, Islam, atheism, etc. But if the Eucharist isn’t Jesus, then for two thousand years, the would-be followers of Jesus Christ were actually idolaters. If that’s the case, nobody should be Catholic.

So those are the stakes. Everyone who encountered Jesus of Nazareth was faced with a crucial question: is this God, in some mysterious guise, or not? The early Christians called this the “aut Deus aut malus homo” (“either God or a bad man”). Everyone encountering the Eucharist is faced with the same question: either God or idolatry.

And of course, if the Eucharist is pagan idolatry, it’s demonic. As 1 Corinthians 10:20 says, “what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God.”

The whole world hangs on this point: is the Eucharist Jesus or an idol? Is the Sacrifice of the Mass being offered to God, or to demons?

Satan Hates the Eucharist
The satanic Black Mass is a ritual inversion (and mockery) of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass performed by Satanists. Now, there are two types of Satanists: “LaVey Satanists,” and “theological Satanists.” LaVey Satanists atheists who don’t believe in Satan, and use “Satanism” as a tool to harass and provoke Christians (unlike“theological Satanists,” who believe in Satan and worship him). But whether the practitioners are playing at the occult, or serious, there’s no question that they’re tapping into some seriously dark spiritual forces. Satan is at work here.

And it worth pointing out that when Satanists (of both kind) want to mock a religious ritual, you can bet that it’s going to be the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass that they target. How often do you hear about Muslim or Hindu or Jewish (or even Protestant) services being subjected to such intense Satanic mockery?

Nor is this Satanic targeting of the Mass anything new. As far back as the fourth century, St. Epiphanius of Salamis described a sect of Gnosticism performing a perverted mockery of Mass. I won’t go into the details, but it was graphic enough that the members of this sect became known as “Borborians” (“filthy ones”).

Satan Doesn’t Drive Out Satan
So the Eucharist is either Jesus or evil (since if it’s not Jesus, it’s idolatry) and since the devil hates the Eucharist, we can cross “evil” off the list.

For some additional Biblical support, consider Matthew 12.22-28:

“Then a blind and dumb demoniac was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” But when the Pharisees heard it they said, “It is only by Be-el′zebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.”

“Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand; and if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand? And if I cast out demons by Be-el′zebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.”

This passage is important: it shows, for example, that Catholic exorcists are operating by the Spirit of God when they drive out demons. But it also means that if Satan hates the Mass, we can be sure that the Mass isn’t evil.

Of course, if the Mass isn’t demonic, if it isn’t idolatry, that really only leaves one option: that the Eucharist is Jesus Christ, and that the Sacrifice of the Mass is presenting Jesus to the Father. This (and as far as I can tell, this alone), accounts for the Satanic mockery.

The Target of Satan
Even if the only thing you knew about Catholicism was that its central form of worship, the Mass, was the target of Satanic ire, you would already have good reason to believe that Catholicism was the true religion.

But taken with all of the other evidence for the truth that the Eucharist is Jesus, that the Mass is a Sacrifice instituted by God, and that the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ, Satan is just one more (unwitting) witness for the truth of Jesus Christ and His Church.

Originally posted on Shameless Popery

[See also: How the Famous Sell Their Soul to Satan]

[See also: Satan Loves to Take Over Politicians, Says Roman Exorcist]

If you only knew how deeply the Rcc is entrenched in the Luciferian activities of the world. Check out The Secret Behind Secret Societies by Prof. Vieth.

I didn't open your SDA video because they scare my grandchildren.

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[bbyrd009]

Claiming my clearly stated motives are false

well i guess a lot of that is subconscious, and i actually don't question your motives too much Pm, you seem to be doing the wrong thing for what i'm sure are the right reasons. Bam keep warning ppl if you like ok, and take this as just another voice suggesting that you are not being heard like you maybe think

 

[bbyrd009]

There's not a single text in all of Scripture that says we're called to make the truth popular and inoffensive - but to preach it with power under the aegis of the Holy Spirit. The false gospel of the papacy makes the Cross null and void and yet you claim we're to respect what God says should be declared anathema? Not so, BB.

i don't claim that Pm, Scripture does. And i doubt anyone would suggest that you stop naming things what they are per se ok, yes, you have found a well-known antichrist, but see you could pretty much have this convo with most priests, too, they would conditionally agree, just like satan attacks your group i'm sure, wherever men come together and try to do the right thing, "satan" is said to be there, right.

personally i don't consider Catholics to even be Christian--i guess i have diff values than many ppl, and "Christian" is not a requirement imo, i interpret "no other Name" differently--but i also have nothing to gain by asserting the opinion, just like here basically, and i also don't think anyone who believes they are going to heaven when they die is a Christian now either; or, since the pov seems so universal to "Christianity" now, maybe i should consider them the Christians and me not, but the point here is that my pov is really as irrelevant as yours, see, when the first practicing Catholic lives an "accepted" life and we cannot come up with any complaints against their works then we have to acknowledge that we do not know, or at least refrain from blanket judgements i guess

Iow if you acknowledge that a Catholic can be right with God then you have to kind of reflect on your warning some, who is your audience for this warning, in your opinion? Cradle Catholics who cannot hear you, or cradle Prots who already agree, and just prefer to overlook their own rot?

 

[bbyrd009]

BTW, I've shown you that the actual modern Protestant sects are those who disagree with the twin pillars of the Protestant Reformation

• Ephesians 2:8-10
• the papacy is the Antichrist of prophecy

Since I agree with both, please stop referring to my beliefs as sectarian.

i'm not meaning to use that as "cult" Pm, i meant that you also belong to some congregation or other you consider Christian, right, you are a Pentecostal or whatever, you go to a place you call "church" on Sundays and put a dime in the plate too, and you also seek immortality in heaven after you die

 

[Willie T]

Pm.
Where do you come up with some of these things? The Papacy is the antichrist??????

 

[bbyrd009]

as evidenced by the news reports that almost daily dominate the headlines.

that is your standard Pm? Bam use it then, but consider how you might easily be deceived that way at least imo, ok. The papacy does not have antichrist all to itself, i'm pretty sure

 

[bbyrd009]

If you only knew how deeply the Rcc is entrenched in the Luciferian activi

already acknowledged Pm, this is no less true of our Gov leaders, prolly more true, and yet you still vote and advocate "Service to one's country" surely, so when you stop paying taxes and start posting about your 2nd Amendment responsibilities i'll be back, and meanwhile i hope you understand that there is a dichotomy in the RCC that i am not denying, and i doubt most any knowledgeable believer would deny, including priests, so no one can condemn you on the facts, it is going to be your perspective and application that will be questioned.

When you condemn Catholicism from one side of your mouth and then acknowledge that some Catholics will be accepted out the other side, see how you might want to clear that up is all i'm saying. my first love was abused by a Baptist deacon when she was like 12, and i lost my virginity on a retreat to a preacher's daughter, so wadr i don't believe the news is a very good source for truth in the first place, and i also don't believe that most 1st world ppl learn about sex any other way tbh

 

[bbyrd009]

I have a problem with people who by their irresponsible ignorance seek to lead lambs to the slaughter.
Your problem is lack of discipline. You've allowed yourself to be informed only enough to become revolted, rather than considering the full scope of the issue in its entirety.

ok then as i said Pm, tell us what your warning is ok, loud and clear, and then listen to yourself if you will.
What i mean to illuminate here is "who are you telling?"
describe the guy that is like any more informed or encouraged by your msg if you will; who do you think you are helping?

bc i'm not here tryna get you to stop or anything, ok, idc about that really

 

[bbyrd009]

Most people who find themselves on trial for murder (or any number of things) likewise, never thought they could ever do such a thing.

yes, you gotta believe those believers in the NT never thought they would be able to eat their own babies too

 

[brakelite]

Pm.
Where do you come up with some of these things? The Papacy is the antichrist??????

Ever reformer agreed on that. For over 400 years Protestantism agreed on that. Why? Because of scripture. The problem today is that Protestants no longer believe scripture.

 

[bbyrd009]

Excellent. @bbyrd009 , there is a time of judgement pending in relation to historic crimes against and current lies and spiritual adultery of Babylon which the RCC must bear much of the responsibility.

ah, and what crimes do you mean, that have not already been discovered and judged, and i guess even confessed and "repented" of, bl? Catholicism is a diff planet to me so i don't pay too much attention there, but bam if you have a pertinent warning let's hear it. i am all for exposing the pitfalls of the world ok. Let's not forget that pointlessly dividing people and lack of forgiveness are a couple biggies tho