Does God : Know everything?

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
Brought from Death to Life The Lord told Nicodemus unequivocally, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). Only the Spirit of the living God can take dry bones, dead in trespasses and rebellion against God, and make them spiritually alive (Ephesians 2:1-5).
27 Feb 2020

Jesus told nicodemus how. As did paul.

If we are dead because of sin, Our condemnation is based on that sin.

Jesus said that when we believe, we are no longer condemned, Our lack of condemnation (new birth) is based on our faith.

John 3:
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [b]who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

In ephesians, paul said this same thing, it is by Grace we have been saved (made alive) not of works.. But it is through faith

eph 2: 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it (salvation) is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
John 3:6

6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[a] gives birth to spirit.

John 3: 6 NKJV - 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 3: 6 NASB - 6 That which has been born of the flesh is flesh, and that which has been born of the Spirit is spirit.

Spirit gives birth to spirit is totally opposite what this says.

if you have a bible that says spirit gives birth to spirit. throw it out. it is wrong. and makes no sense.

The spirit does not give birth to a spirit. it gives birth to a person.. You are a person. if you are born gain, The spirit made YOU ALIVE.. if he did nto do that, your still dead.

Ritajanice · May 21, 2024

Eternally Grateful said:
Jesus told nicodemus how. As did paul.

If we are dead because of sin, Our condemnation is based on that sin.

Jesus said that when we believe, we are no longer condemned, Our lack of condemnation (new birth) is based on our faith.

John 3:
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [b]who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

In ephesians, paul said this same thing, it is by Grace we have been saved (made alive) not of works.. But it is through faith

eph 2: 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it (salvation) is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast

You left this part out, Jesus explains to Nicodemus right here...those who believe are already Born Again.

The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

This is how we become Born Of The Spirit..very easy to understand...unfortunately you then go onto put your own spin on what it means to be Born Of The Spirit.

John 3:1-21

King James Version

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Ritajanice · May 21, 2024

Eternally Grateful said:
John 3: 6 NKJV - 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 3: 6 NASB - 6 That which has been born of the flesh is flesh, and that which has been born of the Spirit is spirit.

Spirit gives birth to spirit is totally opposite what this says.

if you have a bible that says spirit gives birth to spirit. throw it out. it is wrong. and makes no sense.

The spirit does not give birth to a spirit. it gives birth to a person.. You are a person. if you are born gain, The spirit made YOU ALIVE.. if he did nto do that, your still dead.

I’m afraid you are very confused imo, regarding the Living Holy Spirit, who gives birth to our spirit, His Living Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children....what does the Spirit testify to in us?

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...His Living Spirit speaks to our spirit, as he’s indwelling our spirit, ...that’s His Living Spirit, that’s what we must be Born Again of.

Ritajanice · May 21, 2024

Eternally Grateful said:
The spirit does not give birth to a spirit. it gives birth to a person

Nope, not biblical...we are Born Again of imperishable seed.

Are you saying that the seed that a Born Again received is a dead seed?

The seed is not the cross, it’s because of the cross that we can receive God’s Living Seed.

No where in Gods word does he say his Spirit gives birth to a person.

Listen Brother, we believe differently, why can’t you accept that.

You keep challenging me on my belief...respect it...I respect your belief....I just wasn’t Born Again the way you were Born Again...we are still Brother and Sister....xx

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
You left this part out, Jesus explains to Nicodemus right here...those who believe are already Born Again.

The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

This is how we become Born Of The Spirit..very easy to understand...unfortunately you then go onto put your own spin on what it means to be Born Of The Spirit.

John 3:1-21

King James Version

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Um no it did not say that.

I was born of the spirit just as it said. I trusted God, i called out to him, and I do nto know how. But I was born again.

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
I’m afraid you are very confused imo, regarding the Living Holy Spirit, who gives birth to our spirit, His Living Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children....what does the Spirit testify to in us?

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...His Living Spirit speaks to our spirit, as he’s indwelling our spirit, ...that’s His Living Spirit, that’s what we must be Born Again of.

Bit as many as have received him to THEM he gave the right to become children of God.

Did you receive him Rita? If you did, You were born a child of God (spiritual birth)

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
Nope, not biblical...we are Born Again of imperishable seed.

Are you saying that the seed that a Born Again received is a dead seed?

The seed is not the cross, it’s because of the cross that we can receive God’s Living Seed.

No where in Gods word does he say his Spirit gives birth to a person.

Listen Brother, we believe differently, why can’t you accept that.

You keep challenging me on my belief...respect it...I respect your belief....I just wasn’t Born Again the way you were Born Again...we are still Brother and Sister....xx

Good God I give up

I thought you said you ignored me?

I will keep exposing your nonsensible gospel which is no gospel at all.

Ritajanice · May 21, 2024

Eternally Grateful said:
Um no it did not say that.

I was born of the spirit just as it said. I trusted God, i called out to him, and I do nto know how. But I was born again.

You said this, it’s not biblical.

The spirit does not give birth to a spirit. it gives birth to a person

Ritajanice · May 21, 2024

Eternally Grateful said:
Bit as many as have received him to THEM he gave the right to become children of God.

Did you receive him Rita? If you did, You were born a child of God (spiritual birth)

Listen, did you read my post, or are you going to keep forcing onto me what you believe, I don’t believe the same as you do...NEVER will.

Move on ,or must I exit this thread as well, because of you non acceptance on how I became Born Again?

It’s futile and serves no purpose.

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
Listen, did you read my post, or are you going to keep forcing onto me what you believe, I don’t believe the same as you do...NEVER will.

Move on ,or must I exit this thread as well, because of you non acceptance on how I became Born Again?

It’s futile and serves no purpose.

I said it once I will say it again.

STOP!!!!!

Yes I have read your post.

I disagree with you and have showed why

yet you continue to slander me, lie about me, and continue to say i reject Gods word.

Your the one attacking not me,

don;'t say I am trying to force you to believe anything, I am not.. I am just giving a different view for everyone to see.

what you do with it is up to you!!

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
You said this, it’s not biblical.

The spirit does not give birth to a spirit. it gives birth to a person

The spirit gave birth to me, He made me a spiritual person.

Thats what the word says

That which is born of spirit is spirit.

spiritual birth is a new birth,, it is what it means to be born again (a second time)

Ritajanice · May 21, 2024

Eternally Grateful said:
I said it once I will say it again.

STOP!!!!!

Yes I have read your post.

I disagree with you and have showed why

yet you continue to slander me, lie about me, and continue to say i reject Gods word.

Your the one attacking not me,

don;'t say I am trying to force you to believe anything, I am not.. I am just giving a different view for everyone to see.

what you do with it is up to you!!

My spirit refuses to get into any more petty “ SELF” squabbling...In fact the Spirit Of God won’t let me, it’s not of the Spirit, coercion from another member is why I am leaving this thread....therefore I will 100% exit this thread...

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
My spirit refuses to get into any more petty “ SELF” squabbling...In fact the Spirit Of God won’t let me, it’s not of the Spirit, coercion from another member is why I am leaving this thread....therefore I will 100% exit this thread...

the spirit won't let you yet you have been doing it for days now.

shaking my head

Ronald David Bruno · May 21, 2024

JBO said:
That is foreknowledge, not predestination. The failure to understand that is only a part of the problem in the Calvinist soteriology.

So you are saying that God had in mind to put our names in the Book of Life with the intention of saving us; but just wasn't sure how we would respond to the invitation? That sort of cancels out foreknowledge. Intention implies predestination.

JBO said:
Romans 11 says a remnant Israel had been saved already. Then since the cross (actually since that first Pentecost after the cross) there is neither Jew nor Greek.

No it does not! It states that He will save all Israel (which is a remnant Jewish population) when the fulness of the Gentiles comes.
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. ROM. 11:25
That is when everyone written in the Book of Life has been accounted for. In other confirming words that correlate to this time: And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Matt. 24:14
The Rev. 7 and 14 scriptures also support this time period when Jews ( actually descendants of the twelve tribes, whom only God knows if and has reserved) will be saved as well.

Ronald Nolette · May 21, 2024

Behold said:
It would appear, that as ive talked to many Calvinists, over the years....and also those who are into.... = Lets call it "evolved or revised" Calvinism, that we know as TULIP.

It seems that over the years, when i talk to people who identify themselves as "yes, im a Calvinist' or.. "well, i believe SOME of it"..

What i notice is that the "some of it" people, can have some TULIP and some Calvinism, and the "Im a Calvinist", will often be "full Tulip".

So, there seems to be a LEVEL of this DOCTRINE, that can be .....= "more in some people" and "not so much in others".

Here is my Question.

BRIGHTFRAME, and Ritajanice ... both believe and teach, that they could not trust in Christ, (Total Depravity) until God caused them to be able to Believe.

In other words.....They could be in a Church, listening to Paul the Apostle, and they could not do this.. of themselves...

"faith comes by Hearing"....>Paul preach.......

They both say....><NO NO NO>.......i could not BELIEVE...of Myself.......I could not do that.. I could not sit and listen to Paul tell me that "Christ died for my sin", and ME Believe it.

"""""I could not be told that Jesus died for my sin... and me CHOOSE TO BELIEVE The Gospel.."""" "God had to do the believing for me by causing me to believe"....

And then they say this.....

So,.... God had to cause me to be BORN AGAIN first........ (not forgive sin first).... but be BORN AGAIN FIRST... so that after im born again, i can now BELIEVE IN JESUS By Faith., and Give God this Faith. = (After im born again)..

So, @Ronald Nolette .. is that how you teach it also?

Well then you can refer to me as a "revised" Calvinist. I cannot speak to the rest of his theology 9though I read "institutes" many decades ago)

As to the question you pose and use Brightframe and RitaJuice, I agree with them. People can hear the gospel over and over and over dozens of times before they get saved.

Paul wrote those in the flesh cannot please God! Believing pleases God so in our own human nature we cannot do this. It is god working through the Spirit and the gospel that will quicken someone to accept the gospel. We cannot do it of ourselves. to quote Paul:

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Now I am not going to go into the mechanics of the entire process of being born again., It involves forgiveness, confession, repentance, quickening, given a new nature and new mond. these all happen pretty much instantaneously.

Ronald Nolette · May 21, 2024

Ritajanice said:
A Born Again I don’t believe can harden their heart, as we have been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth.....our hearts just become more and more like the Lord, His Love shines brightly out of his children.

The Scriptures strongly imply we can harden our hearts as believers. It speaks of grieving and also quenching the Spirit.

Ritajanice · May 21, 2024

Ronald Nolette said:
Well then you can refer to me as a "revised" Calvinist. I cannot speak to the rest of his theology 9though I read "institutes" many decades ago)

As to the question you pose and use Brightframe and RitaJuice, I agree with them. People can hear the gospel over and over and over dozens of times before they get saved.

Especially in bold.so true.imo.

Ronald Nolette said:
Paul wrote those in the flesh cannot please God! Believing pleases God so in our own human nature we cannot do this. It is god working through the Spirit and the gospel that will quicken someone to accept the gospel. We cannot do it of ourselves. to quote Paul:

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Now I am not going to go into the mechanics of the entire process of being born again., It involves forgiveness, confession, repentance, quickening, given a new nature and new mond. these all happen pretty much instantaneously.

I’m out of this thread, but, I had to congratulate you on this magnificent post, Praise God, music to my ears.xx

Eternally Grateful · May 21, 2024

Ronald David Bruno said:
So you are saying that God had in mind to put our names in the Book of Life with the intention of saving us; but just wasn't sure how we would respond to the invitation? That sort of cancels out foreknowledge. Intention implies predestination.

No it does not! It states that He will save all Israel (which is a remnant Jewish population) when the fulness of the Gentiles comes.
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. ROM. 11:25
That is when everyone written in the Book of Life has been accounted for. In other confirming words that correlate to this time: And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Matt. 24:14
The Rev. 7 and 14 scriptures also support this time period when Jews ( actually descendants of the twelve tribes, whom only God knows if and has reserved) will be saved as well.

I think he said he will save all Israel at that time. Not the remnant, there was already a remnant even until this day..

Jesus said we can be blotted out of the book of life. so to me everyone's name was written in the book of life at one time or another.

JBO · May 21, 2024

Ronald David Bruno said:
So you are saying that God had in mind to put our names in the Book of Life with the intention of saving us; but just wasn't sure how we would respond to the invitation? That sort of cancels out foreknowledge. Intention implies predestination.

You are saying that, not me. You obviously are confused about what either foreknowledge or predestination mean. To foreknow is simply to know ahead of time. God knows everything. It is called omniscience. omniscience of the future is called foreknowledge. It has nothing whatsoever to do with predestining, or preordaining. Foreknowledge is not causative. Predestination is causative.

Ronald David Bruno said:
No it does not! It states that He will save all Israel (which is a remnant Jewish population) when the fulness of the Gentiles comes.

The use of the Greek word, πλήρωμα [plērōma], translated as fullness is never used to mean full number of anything unless the word ἀριθμός [arithmos] meaning number is used in conjunction. The meaning of "fullness" in Romans 11:25 is similar to its use elsewhere such as Ephesians 3:19; 4:13; or Colossians 1:19, where it means repletion or completion. I believe that was completed when the New Testament writings were completed, fulfilling all that was necessary for Gentiles (and the Jews) to have all that was needed to come to a complete and full belief in God. It is used in the same way in verse 25 with the Gentiles as it was used of the Jews in verse 12. Your explanation of fullness in verse 25 cannot be correlated with the same meaning in verse 12.

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