Do you think there is anything positive about the Democratic Party?

[LouisWilliams]

I know and understand that over 90% of the Christians on this forum seem to be conservative-leaning and strongly favor the Republicans in lots of different issues and stances.

And yet, even so, do you guys not think there is ANYTHING positive for example, about the other side, about the Democrats? I disagree with Democrats on certain things such as abortions and drugs, which I believe are against Christian values and principles. And I also find their constant culture war obsessions and identity politics over race and gender and outer apperance, to be very immature and tiresome from a higher perspective.

I personally think that universal healthcare is something admirable, the Bible does seem to have any real stance on things like this. And for example, other democratic Western countries, including Canada, Israel, Australia, and most of Europe, seem to have such a system, and they seem to be functionally fairly well. Not saying that America should adopt this system immediately, but perhaps America should at least try to experiment with this in the future.

What about you guys? Are there any "redeeming" values, so to speak, that you might respect and admire from the Democrats?

 

[Josho]

I know and understand that over 90% of the Christians on this forum seem to be conservative-leaning and strongly favor the Republicans in lots of different issues and stances.

And yet, even so, do you guys not think there is ANYTHING positive for example, about the other side, about the Democrats? I disagree with Democrats on certain things such as abortions and drugs, which I believe are against Christian values and principles. And I also find their constant culture war obsessions and identity politics over race and gender and outer apperance, to be very immature and tiresome from a higher perspective.

I personally think that universal healthcare is something admirable, the Bible does seem to have any real stance on things like this. And for example, other democratic Western countries, including Canada, Israel, Australia, and most of Europe, seem to have such a system, and they seem to be functionally fairly well. Not saying that America should adopt this system immediately, but perhaps America should at least try to experiment with this in the future.

What about you guys? Are there any "redeeming" values, so to speak, that you might respect and admire from the Democrats?

Agree on the more affordable healthcare, also wanting to tighten gun laws is a positive thing, it's something USA really needs, there's no need for civilians to have military grade weapons, as it can easily be misused as proven time and time again and cause a lot of damage in a short amount of time, it only takes one moment of anger, and people certainly don't need an automatic to go hunting deer.

The Democrats also seem to look after the poor better.

And Democrats have a better aim for cutting down pollution. Which is also a positive thing, no one wants to breathe in hot smoggy air.

Those are the positives I see.

 

[LouisWilliams]

Agree on the more affordable healthcare, also wanting to tighten gun laws is a positive thing, it's something USA really needs, there's no need for civilians to have military grade weapons, as it can easily be misused as proven time and time again and cause a lot of damage in a short amount of time, it only takes one moment of anger, and people certainly don't need an automatic to go hunting deer.

The Democrats also seem to look after the poor better.

And Democrats have a better aim for cutting down pollution. Which is also a positive thing, no one wants to breathe in hot smoggy air.

Those are the positives I see.

Yes, but keep in mind that America, again, is not so black-and-white. Even the young generation of Americans think guns are "cool" or "awesome", although I think it's because of heavy Hollywood and video game influence, rather than learning how to hunt. I know Democrats who are very culturally liberal and left-wing, but who are also quite strongly against strict gun control. American society is again extremely complicated. For example, there are things American liberals are for, which European liberals would be against, and things European liberals are for, which American liberals would be against.

There are even very popular online groups such as "Democrats for the Second Amendment", which are shocking to many Europeans. And also remember, many of these violent shooters are actually young adult Americans from urban backgrounds, not old Republicans from farm areas. Even on online threads, I've read tons of comments from young American liberals who strongly support using guns to target and even kill conservatives and Christians whom they are fighting against, especially after some of the more serious protests.

I'm not sure why this trend seems to be so, especially given the recent violence, and I do realize young Europeans and Australians think guns are not that great, but then again, Americans have always had different views from the rest of the world:
Americans under 30 have rapidly turned against gun control laws, poll finds
Stricter Gun Laws Less Popular in U.S.

 

[JohnPaul]

Nothing whatsoever.

 

[Dropship]

The Dems hate Christianity and want to swamp America with Jesus-rejecters in direct violation of these verses-
"..many deceivers who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh,
have gone out into the world...
do not take them into your house or welcome them.
Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work" (2 John 1:7-11)



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Don got it right..

 

[Dropship]

Obama disrespects the military with his sloppy "coffee cup salute"-



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Don shows how it should be done..

 

[Dropship]

No wonder the Dems hate Don..-

 

[JohnPaul]

No wonder the Dems hate Don..-

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Amen brother, there was never a finer President than President Donald Trump.

 

[bluedragon]

Want affordable health care? Go to Canada and stand in line. Better yet. If you are Vet, go to the VA and stand in the same line. Government healthcare good at dragging their feet.

I had four Representatives in Canada. All making more than six figure incomes. Every single one had a US Healthcare Insurance policy. Why? Limited resources and "Stand in line". The Reps in Toronto and Vancouver were previous British Citizens. They knew the system from the British side and the Canadian side of things.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I know and understand that over 90% of the Christians on this forum seem to be conservative-leaning and strongly favor the Republicans in lots of different issues and stances.

And yet, even so, do you guys not think there is ANYTHING positive for example, about the other side, about the Democrats? I disagree with Democrats on certain things such as abortions and drugs, which I believe are against Christian values and principles. And I also find their constant culture war obsessions and identity politics over race and gender and outer apperance, to be very immature and tiresome from a higher perspective.

I personally think that universal healthcare is something admirable, the Bible does seem to have any real stance on things like this. And for example, other democratic Western countries, including Canada, Israel, Australia, and most of Europe, seem to have such a system, and they seem to be functionally fairly well. Not saying that America should adopt this system immediately, but perhaps America should at least try to experiment with this in the future.

What about you guys? Are there any "redeeming" values, so to speak, that you might respect and admire from the Democrats?

I'd certainly like to as it is in my nature, but I have to say that it gets awfully tough for me these days. You always have to treat people on an individual basis, of course, and I'm sure there may be a few conservative-leaning Democrats still out there. But as a party - particularly at the top levels - the DNC is now corrupt to the core. I could show you examples where the Spirit of God Himself exposed them as evil, and engaging in the long-term planning of the destruction of the church in America, but I won't go into all that now.

Suffice it to say I don't think it's merely a matter of political philosophies anymore. It has long since become a matter spiritual affiliation, and whether consciously or unconsciously, the vast majority on that side of the fence now serve the wrong god.

I know that might sound like an extreme viewpoint, but I'm just giving you an honest answer.

 

[Grailhunter]

In the defense of the two party system....there was a time when the democrats were patriotists and God loving....but that ended with Eisenhower.

You can say what we have today are communists....working towards what they call progressionism which is some crazy form of communism mixed with anarchy. And then atheism and a stoned reality with fags and vegans and freeloaders. With a bloodthirsty Satan driven desire to kill babies in large numbers. All and all a sorry waste of flesh that does not deserve to breath our air.

 

[Dropship]

WIKI- "The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) is a Marxist-Leninist political party in the United States. It has about 5,000 members today (2017). It has morphed into a left-liberal pressure group intervening in the Democratic Party"
Communist Party USA

Lying vote-rigging atheists..
"A lie told often enough becomes the truth"- Vladimir Lenin
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism"-Vladimir Lenin

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I know and understand that over 90% of the Christians on this forum seem to be conservative-leaning and strongly favor the Republicans in lots of different issues and stances.

And yet, even so, do you guys not think there is ANYTHING positive for example, about the other side, about the Democrats? I disagree with Democrats on certain things such as abortions and drugs, which I believe are against Christian values and principles. And I also find their constant culture war obsessions and identity politics over race and gender and outer apperance, to be very immature and tiresome from a higher perspective.

I personally think that universal healthcare is something admirable, the Bible does seem to have any real stance on things like this. And for example, other democratic Western countries, including Canada, Israel, Australia, and most of Europe, seem to have such a system, and they seem to be functionally fairly well. Not saying that America should adopt this system immediately, but perhaps America should at least try to experiment with this in the future.

What about you guys? Are there any "redeeming" values, so to speak, that you might respect and admire from the Democrats?

Well it all depends on what a society wishes. Just remember that though our healthcare system is far from perfect, it also has produced the greatest medical advancements in history.

It boils down to a free market or a government controlled market.

Socialist democracies are failing faster than us economically because it doesn't work and Scoialism has shown to be an abject failure in the long run.

aRepublic with free market capitalism seems to work the best, but it to has its perils. When it runs amok it p[rodices the imbalance we see today in America.

The best government is a benevolent monarchy which we will have when Jesus returns. Until then all forms will live in tension with one another.

 

[Scott Downey]

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exactly so, support as in vote and work for the democratic agenda definitely makes you an antichrist person.

The comment about pollution, well is meaningless, these greens and democrats are going after something unattainable as in the last few percentages of pollution, only way to do that is create a world without people at all, which is partly one of their goals, depopulate the world and give it back to nature, which in itself of against God's command for people. So of course being against God and allied with Satan they want that. Such people want the things God hates.
Even the devil creates false peace and safety.

Genesis 1:28
Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

At the time of the end during the reign of the beast world system there is a false peace and safety, but in reality nothing but wrath stored up will they experience.

1 Thessalonians 5:2-4
New King James Version

2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.

3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.

Like Jesus said their end will be as the time of Noah, a sudden and unexpected destruction.

1. Luke 17:26
   And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Luke 17:27
   They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Amazing to think that the end is a sudden destruction while they think they have beaten God and Heaven with the devil, beast, false prophet ruling the world.
Their peace and safety does not include the peace and safety of God's people.

Daniel 7

21 “I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.

23 “Thus he said:

‘The fourth beast shall be
A fourth kingdom on earth,
Which shall be different from all other kingdoms,
And shall devour the whole earth,
Trample it and break it in pieces.
24 The ten horns are ten kings
Who shall arise from this kingdom.
And another shall rise after them;
He shall be different from the first ones,
And shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time.

26 ‘But the court shall be seated,
And they shall take away his dominion,
To consume and destroy it forever.
27 Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’

28 “This is the end of the account. As for me, Daniel, my thoughts greatly troubled me, and my countenance changed; but I kept the matter in my heart.”

Footnotes

 

[bluedragon]

If one could keep her mouth shut AOC might be considered attractive. But, I don't do well with a known thief that thinks everyone wants her. On second thought, she's not that attractive. Then there's Sinema ....for some odd reason she thinks highly of herself as well.

Otherwise, maybe Minchin for being steadfast.

Other than that .... I got nothing.

 

[marks]

From the beginning the Democrat party has supported slavery, racism, war, perversion, communism, tyranny, shall I go on?

Good people may have gotten involved in the party, but the party is corrupt and evil.

Just my opinion . . .

Much love!

 

[JohnPaul]

From the beginning the Democrat party has supported slavery, racism, war, perversion, communism, tyranny, shall I go on?

Good people may have gotten involved in the party, but the party is corrupt and evil.

Just my opinion . . .

Much love!

Agreed.

 

[Enoch111]

And yet, even so, do you guys not think there is ANYTHING positive for example, about the other side, about the Democrats?

DEMOCRATS = COMMUNIST/FASCISTS = PURE EVIL Jesus told us that Satan's Agenda = STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY. That is the agenda of the Democrats.

At the same time the RINOs are cowards and traitors, and support the Democrats rather than strongly oppose them. The same applies to the so-called "Conservatives" in Canada, who have stood by and watched the destruction of Canada.

 

[Josho]

If one could keep her mouth shut AOC might be considered attractive. But, I don't do well with a known thief that thinks everyone wants her. On second thought, she's not that attractive. Then there's Sinema ....for some odd reason she thinks highly of herself as well.

Otherwise, maybe Minchin for being steadfast.

Other than that .... I got nothing.

Awww she is taken, I gotta look for someone else now, don't worry I am just messing around.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I know and understand that over 90% of the Christians on this forum seem to be conservative-leaning and strongly favor the Republicans in lots of different issues and stances.

And yet, even so, do you guys not think there is ANYTHING positive for example, about the other side, about the Democrats? I disagree with Democrats on certain things such as abortions and drugs, which I believe are against Christian values and principles. And I also find their constant culture war obsessions and identity politics over race and gender and outer apperance, to be very immature and tiresome from a higher perspective.

I personally think that universal healthcare is something admirable, the Bible does seem to have any real stance on things like this. And for example, other democratic Western countries, including Canada, Israel, Australia, and most of Europe, seem to have such a system, and they seem to be functionally fairly well. Not saying that America should adopt this system immediately, but perhaps America should at least try to experiment with this in the future.

What about you guys? Are there any "redeeming" values, so to speak, that you might respect and admire from the Democrats?

OOH! OOH! I know what thing positive!!!!!!! they are positively evil!!! does that count?