Get real!!! In the years of the great tribulation 1/3 of all mankind will die the fish in the oceans will die, all grass and trees will burn and ect!!! yet you say this is past events!!! Get real!!!
Trump to help Jewish People Build their 3RD. Temple??
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You are using the book of Revelation like a Rorschach test. You interpret it according to what you want to see, and not according to what it says.
Revelation 9:18
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.===What year do you say these events happened in the past??
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.===What year do you say these events happened in the past??
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Which temple falls? The one built by man’s hands ...or the temple made without hands, Children circumcised without hands...lively stones built up a spiritual house of God (1 Peter 2:4-5)
[4] To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, [5] Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Matthew 16:17-18
[17] And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. [18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Matthew 7:23-27
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. [24](a Spiritual house built up without hands and of God) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: [25] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. [26] (a house built up by man’s hands and without God —I never knew you.) And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: [27] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.(the house built of man)
What year do you say these events happened in the past??
Revelation 9:18
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.===What year do you say these events happened in the past??
Revelation 9:18
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.===What year do you say these events happened in the past??
Charles Manson (notorious murder) thought this was about the Beatles, having hair like women and faces like men. How is he any different from Hal Lindsey or any other "Dispies" making similar claims?
Here's why you will never see Revelation pan out the way you think it will. It is because you expect to see the symbols materialize, instead of what they represent. Revelation is mostly past now, but you cannot see the fulfillment thinking the symbol will become real. Any red dragons or green horses in view yet?
Bobby Jo
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My point is Jesus the Son gave up His glory and power as God the creator to come to earth and live here 33 years as a man and give His blood and life on a Roman cross as payment for our sin!!
esus gave up a lot of power and glory to live and die as a man and paying our sin debt on that Roman cross!
Philippians 2:6-8 Jesus==
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
Colossians 1:12-17 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
esus gave up a lot of power and glory to live and die as a man and paying our sin debt on that Roman cross!
Philippians 2:6-8 Jesus==
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
Colossians 1:12-17 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Bobby Jo
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Dave L said:
GOD know the hearts of this children, -- and HE is "Dave L". Good thing to know that the CREATOR now posts in Christian Forums.
Bobby Jo
Davy
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I keep warning brethren that the orthodox Jews are serious about re-establishing old covenant worship with a new temple in Jerusalem. Some of the orthodox Jews have for at least a decade now been doing animal sacrifices on a hill overlooking the temple mount on passover. A Christian company in Tennessee, named Jesus, Inc. was sending them red heifers back in 1997.
The times are coming when the Christian Church will be slated to participate in the unbelieving Jew's plans for Jerusalem, world peace being used as the pry bar. Some false prophets in Christian Churches today are even falsely teaching that they can speed up the rapture by helping the unbelieving Jews with their plans.
Who will you follow? We aren't going anywhere until the last day of this world, which is when our Lord Jesus comes to gather us. So what will you do? Who will you remain faithful to?
They are hoping not to suffer for Christ. That's the motive behind their cowering from what they imagine to be the future.
Pssst... If you see any red dragons floating around in space, don't tell anyone except "Dispies". They'll chase you down with a butterfly net......... just sayin'
Bobby Jo
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You know, before you can "see" anything, you should probably remove any obstructions from where your head is being blocked from vision.
Nah it won't happen, there's a comfort zone of warmth ...
Bobby Jo
So you think red dragons are literal and not a symbol?
Bobby Jo
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Why do you ask questions? You won't accept a TRUTH of a matter if GOD HIMSELF revealed it to you. You'd simply make up an excuse to avoid addressing the issue. Scripture spends a LOT paper and ink dealing with this type of circumstance, but again, you're unable to see it:
Mark 4: 11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables; 12 so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand; lest they should turn again, and be forgiven.”
Bobby Jo
You are Rorschaching Revelation. Seeing things in it according to your "Dispy" bias.
Bobby Jo
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"Bias" and Intellectual Dishonesty goes hand in hand, and obviously both of your hands are "full". Please consider dropping what's in them and opening them to the TRUTH of Scripture and History. Specifically, if you were to explain who EACH of the Rev. 13 "seven heads" were, we could start a conversation, -- but it seems you may not be up to it.
Bobby Jo
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