Urgent warning about Donald Trump

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Wow, that's an eye opener, as young as 14 in some places !
Over here in the UK you can get married at 16, with your parents consent. Otherwise you have to wait until you are 18.
Hi; over in North America the whole situation as regards many things relating to the age at which they are allowed is different from what you guys in the UK might be accustomed to.

For example, in some US states the age for a provisional driver's license is 14:

Driver's licenses in the United States - Wikipedia

As regards the age for getting tattooed, if one wishes, it may vary considerably from state to state; in Alaska and Idaho it's 14, with parental permission; in Arkansas, 16, etc.:

Legal status of tattooing in the United States - Wikipedia

I know that in the UK there is a strong tradition of monarchic and socialist state control, which people come to expect.

In North America, especially the United States, there is a strong tradition of the state refraining from intervening in people's lives until absolutely necessary and of letting families and individuals organize their own lives as far as possible.
 
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Scott - haven't you known that someone was evil and others thought the world of him/ her but you KNEW the person better than others and knew he or she was fooling others? You don't really know Pence. When I went to church our pastor stood up there and told us to "Pray for the Bush family because he says he's a Christian." Really??? Since when did CLAIMING to be a Christian MAKE one a Christian??? How EASILY even pastors are fooled!

Pence is right in that oval office bombing innocent people for trumped up reasons. BUT CHRISTIANS ARE CONTENT TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. Why? Can you answer that?

Just how much EVIL are you willing to sweep under the rug??? It's STARING YOU IN THE FACE!

Yes David killed Uriah but he lost his child because of it - and he suffered greatly because of his sins - you can read it in the Psalms. God allows leaders to be put in their positions but we also have a duty to follow Scripture:

Ephesians 5:15 - See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

CHRISTIANS NEED TO STOP PUTTING THEIR FAITH IN TRUMP:

Jeremiah 17:5-12 - Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Psalms 146:3 - 127:5 - Put not your trust in princes, [nor] in the son of man, in whom [there is] no help.

2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Ephesians 6:11-12 - Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Christians are under mass delusion.

If Pence is VP you can be sure he was hand-picked by the illuminati. Pence KNEW he was being photographed so he flashed the masonic hand sign.


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I haven't vetted these sources but found this on Pence:

Mike Pence Exposed -- Timothy Holmseth, PedoGate, Child Trafficking ~ Operation Disclosure

Excerpt:

January 3- According to FBI Informant and investigative journalist, Timothy Holmseth, Vice-President of the United States, Michael Pence, is a longtime pedophile and was involved in massive child trafficking and child pornography rings in Indiana during the time he was Governor of that state. Indiana is proven to be a deep state stronghold for Satanic Ritual Abuse rings and multi-layered child-trafficking and baby-farm sales to the CIA, FBI and other government-related agencies.
January 3- According to FBI Informant and investigative journalist, Timothy Holmseth, Vice-President of the United States, Michael Pence, is a longtime pedophile and was involved in massive child trafficking and child pornography rings in Indiana during the time he was Governor of that state. Indiana is proven to be a deep state stronghold for Satanic Ritual Abuse rings and multi-layered child-trafficking and baby-farm sales to the CIA, FBI and other government-related agencies.

Pence seen throwing illuminati hand signs: https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3239028/pg1

Luciferian Pence-Timothy Holmseth – Brutal Proof

I sometimes read Before it's News:

Mike Pence Flashes the Two-Fingered Finger
Thursday, July 21, 2016 16:14

It never ceases to amaze me how politicians will bow to the Devil and disclose who they are before anyone votes for them. Last night, I was watching the Republican convention. Mike Pence walks on the stage and then flips the Two-Fingered Finger. This man is supposedly a “Christian” but he was showing the world that he is a devil worshipper. I had some hopes that Trump would be different, but when they use the Satanic hand signals, I know that nothing better is going come from his presidency.

Here is the link and the Two-Fingered Finger is plainly displayed. At least they are consistent. Paul Ryan appears to be a freemason and so their brand of Christianity is false and the men are basically liars. In other words, they are just as bad as Hillary.

(Updated: 07/22/16) It appears that the video I originally posted has been edited by someone at the Bloomberg News. Pence flipped the Two-Fingered Finger at the audience as walked to his right just before going to the podium. It appears that Bloomberg cut out the part I was talking about. Now, Bloomberg looks worse than if they had just left it there. Go figure.

Here’s another link of the same event. Hopefully, this won’t be altered. I also have a screen shot of this just in case. https://youtu.be/Q733Uzs023I You can see Pence doing the Two-Fingered Finger at around :18

This is the same nonsense from one party to another and the real issue is that neither party is doing anything to remove the chains of slavery and communism from the “Government.” They may lower income taxes, but the fact is that no one should have to pay income tax. Under the natural law, if a man pays and income tax of any amount, he is a slave. Slavery is offensive to God and it is a great sin, yet this guy claims to be a Christian. This is why I completely reject any religion as they all seem to be offensive to God and they are especially offensive to any mind with the intelligence of the average plant.
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Also take note that Trump's son-in-law Jared is on the CFR. PLANET OF THE CHIMPS #2: Twenty-four percent of Bilderberg 2019 attendees of U.S. origin, 16 of which are members of the Council on Foreign Relations

I'm not taking God out of the equation Scott - I'm adhering to Scripture by not blindly trusting the pablum that is served up to the masses.


2 Corinthians 2:11

“Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.”
You are siding with doubt and conspiracy and acting against the providence of God to raise up leaders.

I don't know Pence, but am willing to trust God. But really..."bombing?" Sounds more like emotion on your part.

But I do know what you mean about "just knowing someone." That happened when I met and talked with Donald Trump some years ago...and he was not evil, but decent, caring, and respectful.
 
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Hi; over in North America the whole situation as regards many things relating to the age at which they are allowed is different from what you guys in the UK might be accustomed to.

For example, in some US states the age for a provisional driver's license is 14:

Driver's licenses in the United States - Wikipedia

As regards the age for getting tattooed, if one wishes, it may vary considerably from state to state; in Alaska and Idaho it's 14, with parental permission; in Arkansas, 16, etc.:

Legal status of tattooing in the United States - Wikipedia

I know that in the UK there is a strong tradition of monarchic and socialist state control, which people come to expect.

In North America, especially the United States, there is a strong tradition of the state refraining from intervening in people's lives until absolutely necessary and of letting families and individuals organize their own lives as far as possible.
The UK Monarch was never Socialist, People who look to the Monarch were never Socialist at all.
The Socialist were always anti Monarch.

Getting a tattoo is a work of Satan, I have never met anyone who likes there tattoos after some years. I don't know why anyone would deface themselves, such must be a mental problem or trend pear pressure, or childish crap like taking up smoking.
Or maybe that they think that they look tough or something, I have never understood why they do such.
To me I see it as a weakness as to someone Smoking or Tattoos or drinking like a idiot or taking drugs, I despise such.

I use to look up to the Monarch but I don't now as they are totally useless now and totally controlled by the media, the Queen is just way to old and has lost the plot. most people by 90yo have lost the plot and live in their own little bubble.

Nothing wrong with State control as long as it's has healthy quality's and is oppose to all degenerates and their filthy grubby trash that only destroys Nations body and soul, like all Socialist and Communist do.

The reason why that kids can not legally be tattooed is obvious, as they will regret there childish foolishness in the years to come.
I never had the money to get tattooed when I was a teenager anyway, but I worked my arse off that I did not have the time for such at all.
 
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Reggie, you can't live in a very built up area then if you cannot find ' anyone ' that has liked their tattoos years later- I know loads of people that like what they had done, many are now in their 40--60's age ranges, me included. It's okay, you don't have to lecture me on that, It would just be wasted words on a computer screen. You don't like or agree with them, which is fine.
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War is the new "economy" I guess...for the super rich, for the huge contractors (usually no-bid ones) Yep, hook, line and sinker..."Trust no man..." You are not crazy SG, propaganda is a strong weapon and it has been aimed at us little people for, like, ever! They don't want a middle class, just rich and poor but...we Christians are already rich as we have the One who owns everything :)

Of course - a lot of people make money from war. The older I get the more I see the propaganda machine at work. This political correctness is of the devil.

They don't want a middle class - all they want is the rich ruling class and the poor.

That's the good news is that God still has control even though it looks bad - so I think it's a good time for all of us to evangelize.
 
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This thread is pretty crazy. We need to remember we are not electing a pastor or spiritual leader. We are electing a political leader. Trump has surrounded himself with good people, just look at his Vice President.

The tweets are designed to be a distraction. I don't like them but I understand them. Do you realize with every outrageous tweet the Democrats and Media go into a frenzy while the President actually goes and gets things done while they are not looking? I don't like the tactic but it is effective.

Religious freedom has been protected under this administration. CHRISTIANS have been protected under this administration. Do not lose sight of that.

Trump has surrounded himself with CFR!!! You need to look into this more before making such a statement!

Some of Trump's Picks Have Troubling Links to Globalism, CFR
 
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Notice that the counsel said this was permitted. So I really don't know why you bring it up as if it is some sort of wrong doing.

As a former Trump supporter we received a pleading letter from Trump yesterday begging us for money. Now think of that for a second: here we are - not poor, yet not able to afford hardly any luxuries in this life - and a BILLIONAIRE is hitting us up for money. I wondered how many other people on fixed incomes took the money they need for necessities and wrote that check.
 
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As a former Trump supporter we received a pleading letter from Trump yesterday begging us for money. Now think of that for a second: here we are - not poor, yet not able to afford hardly any luxuries in this life - and a BILLIONAIRE is hitting us up for money. I wondered how many other people on fixed incomes took the money they need for necessities and wrote that check.
Oh brother.
 
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As a former Trump supporter we received a pleading letter from Trump yesterday begging us for money. Now think of that for a second: here we are - not poor, yet not able to afford hardly any luxuries in this life - and a BILLIONAIRE is hitting us up for money. I wondered how many other people on fixed incomes took the money they need for necessities and wrote that check.


My point is that the above post is nonsense. Do you know how much a national campaign costs to run these days? The national election in 2016 cost a total of 6.5 billion dollars between all candidates. So should a candidate have to bankrupt themselves to win an election or should the American people have some skin in the game?

Why do you no longer support Trump? Who do you support now? What is the basis?
 
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You are siding with doubt and conspiracy and acting against the providence of God to raise up leaders.

I don't know Pence, but am willing to trust God. But really..."bombing?" Sounds more like emotion on your part.

But I do know what you mean about "just knowing someone." That happened when I met and talked with Donald Trump some years ago...and he was not evil, but decent, caring, and respectful.

Funny Scott - when I became a Christian my best friend thought I was believing in a conspiracy. Do you know what her words were? "Every time I hear about someone being a Christian they're caught doing something wrong."

I am not siding against Providence, I'm adhering to Scripture to "not be ignorant of Satan's devices." I don't think God wants us to be gullible Christians - He tells us so. We're told to be "as wise as the serpent and harmless as the dove."

Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels
The candidate who once warned America about Hillary Clinton's hawkishness is turning into a war machine.

Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels

The Hegelian Dialectic has been played on you and you don't even know it. Most people are uninformed I've learned - they only know a little and base their opinions on the little they know. Just like you claimed that my claims that he's bombing are "emotion." Really? If you truly want the truth then do in-depth research on Trump and you'll learn what I have. He's only throwing Christians a few bones to keep them thinking he's on their side while he continues the exact programs of his predecessors.

Trump’s military drops a bomb every 12 minutes, and no one is talking about it - Lee Camp

Trump’s military drops a bomb every 12 minutes, and no one is talking about it - Lee Camp
 
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My point is that the above post is nonsense. Do you know how much a national campaign costs to run these days? The national election in 2016 cost a total of 6.5 billion dollars between all candidates. So should a candidate have to bankrupt themselves to win an election or should the American people have some skin in the game?

Why do you no longer support Trump? Who do you support now? What is the basis?

I no longer support Trump because of what I learned about the illuminati and how they control who is put in office. I had all the same hope that you did when Trump was elected...until I saw that it was all a smokescreen - he continued the wars he swore he would end. Then I learned about how the illuminati communicate using secret hand signs and handshakes and I saw Trump continually throwing the triple six and the triangle. I looked through photos online and saw all the world leaders and former presidents throwing the same sign. Then I saw a video of Trump stating he's a Freemason.

Sometimes all you have are disparate clues to go on and you can piece together a picture and too many things about Trump didn't add up. I saw photos of him hobnobbing with Clintons, Jeffrey Epstein, and others. I just wish that Christians would look into things more instead of believing what we're being "shown". I think a lot of what is going on with the antics of Pelosi are all staged - with Trump's full knowledge - to keep Americans occupied and guessing as the elite continue to make America into the North America Union and as surveillance continues unhindered. Before Hitler took over they took the guns and Trump's push for red flag gun laws raised some eyebrows. There is cognitive dissonance as Christians continue to support Trump even as his bombing of innocent people reaches unprecedented levels.

Here is a good place to start learning what is really going on behind the scenes:

The Cutting Edge - Spiritual Insights Into The New World Order So Startling You'll Never Look At The News The Same Way Again.
 
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I no longer support Trump because of what I learned about the illuminati and how they control who is put in office. I had all the same hope that you did when Trump was elected...until I saw that it was all a smokescreen - he continued the wars he swore he would end. Then I learned about how the illuminati communicate using secret hand signs and handshakes and I saw Trump continually throwing the triple six and the triangle. I looked through photos online and saw all the world leaders and former presidents throwing the same sign. Then I saw a video of Trump stating he's a Freemason.

Sometimes all you have are disparate clues to go on and you can piece together a picture and too many things about Trump didn't add up. I saw photos of him hobnobbing with Clintons, Jeffrey Epstein, and others. I just wish that Christians would look into things more instead of believing what we're being "shown". I think a lot of what is going on with the antics of Pelosi are all staged - with Trump's full knowledge - to keep Americans occupied and guessing as the elite continue to make America into the North America Union and as surveillance continues unhindered. Before Hitler took over they took the guns and Trump's push for red flag gun laws raised some eyebrows. There is cognitive dissonance as Christians continue to support Trump even as his bombing of innocent people reaches unprecedented levels.

Here is a good place to start learning what is really going on behind the scenes:

The Cutting Edge - Spiritual Insights Into The New World Order So Startling You'll Never Look At The News The Same Way Again.

Satan and his ways are so very subtle...it's all happening right under our noses and we have been slowly moving away from all things God. "If even the very elect..."
 

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It says he must be the husband of one wife. Somewhat of a challenge if he is not married!!!!! Duh!

Why not just accept Scripture the way it is written instead of trying to convince others that Scripture is flawed and not to be trusted.
Hi Stan,

I agree with you that it says he must be the husband of one wife. HOWEVER, the contention I am making is that a bishop does not have to be married. IF he is married he is allowed only one wife. Please show me in Scripture where it says a bishop MUST be married.

I can't find it.

Willing to learn, Mary
 

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No - my point was that I don't believe our votes matter anymore - the elite select both candidates and serve them up to us so that we think we have a choice.
Trump and H. Clinton received enough of OUR votes in their respective general elections to win the nomination. Trumped received enough of OUR votes in the primary election in the States that had the most ELECTORAL COLLAGE. If you move around the votes for Hillary in various States to the States that had more electoral collage (of which she lost) she would have won. Soooo how does my vote not matter anymore?

Curious Mary
 

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Hi Stan,

I agree with you that it says he must be the husband of one wife. HOWEVER, the contention I am making is that a bishop does not have to be married. IF he is married he is allowed only one wife. Please show me in Scripture where it says a bishop MUST be married.

I can't find it.

Willing to learn, Mary
Ha, ha, how can he have one wife if he isn't married? How can people judge how well he governs his children so they can predict how he'd govern as a bishop, unless he was married?
 

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You're either playing mind games or in fantasy-land. You do not know how to answer a question straightforwardly.
LOL.....If saying that my answer "NO ONE would want to live next to a person who might have an eye on defiling their child is playing a game then you have a weird way of looking at games. o_O

How much straight forward can that be?

 

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LOL.....If saying that my answer "NO ONE would want to live next to a person who might have an eye on defiling their child is playing a game then you have a weird way of looking at games. o_O

How much straight forward can that be?
Picking of the options would work for me.
 

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Ha, ha, how can he have one wife if he isn't married? How can people judge how well he governs his children so they can predict how he'd govern as a bishop, unless he was married?
Good morning,

Please show me in Scripture where it says a bishop MUST be married. It tells us what he MUST be IF he is married in 1 Timothy AND Titus but NO WHERE does it say he must be married.

How do you square your theory with Paul’s repeated recommendations to remain celibate, remain single after having lost a spouse (I Cor. 7:1; 7-8; 25-28; 32-35; 38; 39-40)?

According to your theory if a bishops wife dies he HAS to remarry. Your theory does not line up with Scripture.

Bible study Mary