This is about the 4 beasts of Daniel which people posted in the first page/s of the Ukraine topic (
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/19923-the-truth-about-ukraine-russia/?hl=ukraine). I didn't want to interupt the main posting/poster of the Ukriane topic so have split a new thread/topic. (Though i may not be able to follow it as i have been needing to stay offline for awhile to get some things done once my clicking-throat sickness is better).
(Not sure if this is unorthodox but seemed best place to post it.)
They said "lion = UK; bear = Russia; tiger [or dragon?] = China" etc.
We all know that the 4 beasts/metals of Daniel do seem to match the world empires of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greco-Macedonian, Roman (or some slight variation) between Daniel's time and the end times. So i guess that when people in the Ukraine thread/topic posted about the beasts and modern that they see the bible as having more than one possible meanings. We will just add this additional/alternative theory.
The 4 metals and 4 beast of Daniel may represent 4 world ages / 4 ages of the world. Many ancient cultures around the world had (3 or) 4 (or 5) world ages. Thus God's dream & Daniel's interpretation would have resonated with the king's cultural. Daniel said the lion/gold was Babel.
The 4 rivers of Eden also seem to represent/symbolise 4 quarters of the world (+) &/or 4 world ages. (Note the Cross.) The first river encompasses the land of *gold*. The second compasseth the land of Cush, and in classical the Ethiopians are from the silver age. Rivers of running water are like time/history.
Classical: gold, silver, brass/brazen, iron.
Zodiacal: leo, taurus, aquarius, serpens/scropio/aquilo.
Biblical: gold, silver, brass, iron (& clay), (5th/stone).
Biblical: lion, bear, leopard, beast/dragon.
Biblical: pison/havilah/gold, gihon/cush, hiddekel/tigris/asshur, euphrates.
Biblical: 4 parts jesus garment.
Biblical: 4 arms of the Cross.
Jewish: michael gabriel raphael uriel.
[4 woods cross: palm cedar olive cypress.]
Babylonian: Nergal/lion, Marduk/bull, Nebo/human, Ninib/eagle.
Biblical: mene, mene, tekel, upharsin.
Iran: gold, silver, "steel", "iron compound".
Iran: 4 cups from 4 rivers (Oxus, Indus, Euphrates, Danube).
Indian yugas: krita/satya, treta, dvapara, kali/dark.
Mexican: 4 suns.
So the Cross symbolises Jesus died for people of all 4 quarters and all 4 ages. It can also symbolise died for all 3 "races":
biblical: Shem, Ham, Japheth/Isles Gentiles.
biblical: Hebrew, Latin, Greek.
biblical: Matthew/Levi, Mark/Peter, Luke/Paul.
biblical: Judea, Samaria, Galilee of Gentiles.
biblical: havilah, cush, asshur.
[??biblical: law, prophets, writings??]
Arab/Iranian: persian/poetic, arab/persuasive, turk/menacing.
Atlantean: red, white, black.
Note the bear could also represent UK (Arthur). Compare the lion, bear, etc of Gildas' 5 tyrants.
bears: Ainu/Japan, Britain/Arthur, Russia, Medo-Persia, Leib-Olmai/Lapps.
lions: Babylon, UK.
eagles: Russia, (Nazi) Germany, Austria, Hittite, Roman/Byzantine, USA.
(The 4s and 3s are only a few examples, i have lots more from around the world.)
Refs: Bible. Josephus. Philipot. Julius Evola. Donald MacKenzie. Andre Nataf. Ethelwerd. Gildas (DEB). John Maundeville. Chuck Missler (66 40). JC Cooper. G Dumezil.
ps i will also just comment on couple of other similar things in the Ukraine thread/topic:
I was interested that the dates 1917/8 and 1967/8 and 2014/5/[2017]/2018/[2019/2020] happen to fit with the dates for smart meters & digitalisation. And the date 1948 might link with the 2045 initiative.
Magog does mean "prefix/land/mother + roof/ceiling/mountain".
Also westerners maybe too distracted about foreign and not care about people suffering in own country/"community"/street?
(Don't think this means everything is fine and dandy here with me. I am suffering Hell beyond words/bearing.)
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/19923-the-truth-about-ukraine-russia/?hl=ukraine). I didn't want to interupt the main posting/poster of the Ukriane topic so have split a new thread/topic. (Though i may not be able to follow it as i have been needing to stay offline for awhile to get some things done once my clicking-throat sickness is better).
(Not sure if this is unorthodox but seemed best place to post it.)
They said "lion = UK; bear = Russia; tiger [or dragon?] = China" etc.
We all know that the 4 beasts/metals of Daniel do seem to match the world empires of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greco-Macedonian, Roman (or some slight variation) between Daniel's time and the end times. So i guess that when people in the Ukraine thread/topic posted about the beasts and modern that they see the bible as having more than one possible meanings. We will just add this additional/alternative theory.
The 4 metals and 4 beast of Daniel may represent 4 world ages / 4 ages of the world. Many ancient cultures around the world had (3 or) 4 (or 5) world ages. Thus God's dream & Daniel's interpretation would have resonated with the king's cultural. Daniel said the lion/gold was Babel.
The 4 rivers of Eden also seem to represent/symbolise 4 quarters of the world (+) &/or 4 world ages. (Note the Cross.) The first river encompasses the land of *gold*. The second compasseth the land of Cush, and in classical the Ethiopians are from the silver age. Rivers of running water are like time/history.
Classical: gold, silver, brass/brazen, iron.
Zodiacal: leo, taurus, aquarius, serpens/scropio/aquilo.
Biblical: gold, silver, brass, iron (& clay), (5th/stone).
Biblical: lion, bear, leopard, beast/dragon.
Biblical: pison/havilah/gold, gihon/cush, hiddekel/tigris/asshur, euphrates.
Biblical: 4 parts jesus garment.
Biblical: 4 arms of the Cross.
Jewish: michael gabriel raphael uriel.
[4 woods cross: palm cedar olive cypress.]
Babylonian: Nergal/lion, Marduk/bull, Nebo/human, Ninib/eagle.
Biblical: mene, mene, tekel, upharsin.
Iran: gold, silver, "steel", "iron compound".
Iran: 4 cups from 4 rivers (Oxus, Indus, Euphrates, Danube).
Indian yugas: krita/satya, treta, dvapara, kali/dark.
Mexican: 4 suns.
So the Cross symbolises Jesus died for people of all 4 quarters and all 4 ages. It can also symbolise died for all 3 "races":
biblical: Shem, Ham, Japheth/Isles Gentiles.
biblical: Hebrew, Latin, Greek.
biblical: Matthew/Levi, Mark/Peter, Luke/Paul.
biblical: Judea, Samaria, Galilee of Gentiles.
biblical: havilah, cush, asshur.
[??biblical: law, prophets, writings??]
Arab/Iranian: persian/poetic, arab/persuasive, turk/menacing.
Atlantean: red, white, black.
Note the bear could also represent UK (Arthur). Compare the lion, bear, etc of Gildas' 5 tyrants.
bears: Ainu/Japan, Britain/Arthur, Russia, Medo-Persia, Leib-Olmai/Lapps.
lions: Babylon, UK.
eagles: Russia, (Nazi) Germany, Austria, Hittite, Roman/Byzantine, USA.
(The 4s and 3s are only a few examples, i have lots more from around the world.)
Refs: Bible. Josephus. Philipot. Julius Evola. Donald MacKenzie. Andre Nataf. Ethelwerd. Gildas (DEB). John Maundeville. Chuck Missler (66 40). JC Cooper. G Dumezil.
ps i will also just comment on couple of other similar things in the Ukraine thread/topic:
I was interested that the dates 1917/8 and 1967/8 and 2014/5/[2017]/2018/[2019/2020] happen to fit with the dates for smart meters & digitalisation. And the date 1948 might link with the 2045 initiative.
Magog does mean "prefix/land/mother + roof/ceiling/mountain".
Also westerners maybe too distracted about foreign and not care about people suffering in own country/"community"/street?
(Don't think this means everything is fine and dandy here with me. I am suffering Hell beyond words/bearing.)