Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy

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Truth

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The evidence you can provide is where Scripture says Sunday is the new Sabbath. Surely you have more than the two you provided which say nothing about the Sabbath being changed to Sunday.

As for my evidence, it comes from Scripture. Paul kept the Sabbath.

...the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. Now when the congregation had broken up, many of the Jews and devout proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God. (Acts 13:42-44)​

Preaching and teaching to the Gentiles by the apostles took place on the Sabbath, not Sunday.

Notice also that teaching on the Sabbath was Paul's custom:

Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and demonstrating that the Messiah had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, "This Yeshua whom I preach to you is the Messiah." And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas. (Acts 17:1-4)​

Also Acts 18:4 states:

And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
Greeks attending the synagogue service on Sabbath? When they received Yeshua did they suddenly start going to Sunday church?
Paul said;

"Imitate me, just as I also imitate Messiah. (1 Corinthians 11:1)
Messiah Yeshua kept the 7th day Sabbath until the day he died. Paul imitated him. We are to imitate Paul and Yeshua as well. If Paul kept Sunday, he certainly was NOT imitating Messiah.

Paul also said in Acts 25:8;

While he answered for himself, Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all.​

and in Acts 28:17;

And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans.
Had Paul abandoned the 7th day Sabbath in favor of Sunday, he would not only have broken the law, but would have immensely offended the Jews.

Paul died around 65 CE. Before he died he said, "For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock." Acts 20:29. How do you understand that?

Do you have mortar line's in your forehead yet, form banging you head against a brick wall,LOL, I am truly Amazed that you are still trying to get these people to understand. second Thessalonians 2:10-11 - 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the Love of the Truth, that they might be saved!
11- And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the Lie.
1700 years of deception doesn't wash away easily, Love ya Man, stay firm, steadfast and be blessed in the Name of Yeshua!
 

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The Greek word for "law" (nomos) is not found in Colossians 2:14.

Correct! You're right, again!

The word "dogma" refers to the decrees of men.
Wrong! You're wrong again!

YHWH's ordinances are called "dikaioma", not "dogma".
As always you're right in your own eyes, again!

This same word (dogma) is used in Colossians 2:20 pertaining to the doctrines and commandments of men;
Yes, in verse 20. Verse 20 is not verse 14 and 'dogma' isn't 'cheirographon'.

But have you ever seen "the handwritten" ~"dikaioma"~? No you haven't because in Colossians 2:14 it is not merely ordinances or merely the Law or merely '~the two greatest commandments~' which were crucified on the cross, but Jesus IN AND WITH WHOM AND YES, THROUGH WHOM, was "nailed to the cross" the Eternal Word and Law of God "TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY" AS CHRIST CRUCIFIED.
 

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you seem to be like a ship on the Ocean out there all by yourself.
Alone never, Christ is always with me, and this bit,

Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

see we, those who are in Christ, have all three, and this bit

2Ki 6:16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.
2Ki 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

never alone

and our mate @bbyrd009 has the law as a stumbling block, he keeps tripping over it, it is a stumbling block to many as is Christ. As you can see all teh posts on this topic, they just keep falling over.
 

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with no Scripture you have not met Him
Poor man, missing out on the best,

Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

If we are not listening to Him we are not His sheep.

and this bit

Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

and I met God too, that is another story, again none of my doing.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

and so you have none.

God bless
 

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So are you saying that Christ is a stumbling block?

1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

youd be surprised
 

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1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

youd be surprised

So 2nd pet 2:8 is specifically for the Disobedient Right So who are the disobedient, and to what are thy Disobedient of?
 

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As Pia said everyday is made by God, so therefore everyday God made is Holy to those who are in Christ, everyday God gave us is a blessing, today is Sunday, it's a holy day, because it was made by God, we could even call it SON-day if we really wanted. There is the Seventh day, but what about the 6 before. He blessed us with His creation on each of the days before.

- On the 1st day God said let there be light, God saw the light, that it was good and God divided the light from the darkness. Already we see God's holiness on the 1st day, the significance of it, is not only natural, but supernatural, that he would separate born again Believers from the world, and give Jesus to us as our way, truth and the Light, that we who follow Christ may be shining lights with the Jesus's Holy Spirit the Light in us to the dark of the world. So the 1st day of his creation is Holy and the 4th day was Holy too. Genesis 1:3-5 Genesis 1:14-19 John 8:12

- The 2nd day, Then God said let there be firmament in the midst of the waters and let it divide the waters from the waters, thus God made the firmament and divided the waters, the waters below the firmament and the waters above. Again what a Holy day that was, it was a wonderful supernatural act of God, and would later signify the firmament between the Living Water (the Holy Spirit) from the name above all Jesus and the earthly waters. The Spiritual waters from Jesus and the natural earthly waters. So the 2nd day was Holy. Genesis 6-8 John 4:14 John 7:37-39 Ezekiel 47:1-12 Ephesians 5:18

- The 3rd day The waters under the heaven were gathered together, dry land appeared, the waters were known as seas, dry land earth, the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed, the fruit tree that yields fruit to its kind, whose seed is in itself on earth. Again another Holy day. The Father is in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father, when Jesus was born into this earth, He was the seed of David, but in the Spirit, He is the Seed of God, just like in the Spirit we are seeds of God, we are the product of God. I could go on and explain further for the 3rd day, but this post is already taking long enough. So the 3rd day is also Holy. Genesis 1:9-13 Romans 1:3 John 14:20 John 15:4

-The fourth day I have already went through this on no.1, so the fourth day is Holy, we are the lights who have Jesus in us.

- The fifth day, the waters were filled with living creatures, birds were flying in the air, again great significant Holy Day, it could be a representation of us walking in the waters of Ezekiel 47, walking in the Holy Spirit's presence, rising up like eagles above the storm, so there is a great supernatural depth into the fifth day. Genesis 1:20-23 Isaiah 40:21 Ezekiel 47 Galatians 5:25

- The sixth day living creatures moved across land, cattle, every creeping thing and beast, He made man in His image, to His likeness, he gave man dominion over every living thing on the earth. Again that day was Holy, it was a blessing from Jesus, a sign that one day both Male and Female will not only have authority in the natural, but authority also in the supernatural in Christ, the authority to cast out demons, the authority to heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those with leprosy, the authority to speak to the mountain move and it shall move. So the sixth day is Holy. Genesis 1:24-31 Matthew 17:20 Matthew 10:8

- Finally the Seventh Day God rested, and those who come unto Jesus, He will give them rest. So the Seventh Day is also Holy. Matthew 11:28

We enter the Sabbath of rest when we are born again in Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Sabbath is not bound by religious law, structure or procedure. But the New Covenant Sabbath is resting in Christ, whether it be a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or whatever.

So my conclusion is everyday God made is Holy.
 
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So 2nd pet 2:8 is specifically for the Disobedient Right So who are the disobedient, and to what are thy Disobedient of?

Mat_13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

Mar_6:6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

Mar_16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

thats why we have religion.
 
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You can save this post for when I start a thread on Yeshua not being YHWH. I do not want to derail this thread any further.


I just wanted you to know you were the one who opened up monotheism as opposed to polytheism. I shall await your thread with anticipation.
 
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Poor man, missing out on the best,

Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

If we are not listening to Him we are not His sheep.

and this bit

Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

and I met God too, that is another story, again none of my doing.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

and so you have none.

God bless

Start with '~poor man~', intersperse with '~not His sheep~', '~none of his~', has not '~met God~' and other innuendos like he '~has no life~', and end with '~God bless~'.

I wish you won't do that!
 

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Start with '~poor man~', intersperse with '~not His sheep~', '~none of his~', has not '~met God~' and other innuendos like he '~has no life~', and end with '~God bless~'.

I wish you won't do that!
Why do you have a problem with people who actually believe God, so many christians do. If we are not listening to Him we have nothing.
 

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So my conclusion is everyday God made is Holy.

Not that your conclusion means much, but why didn't God, say so?

No, you wouldn't be able to tell?

Well, I'll tell you; I can. It's because from the beginning God promised the Life of his Son for to save sinners for which Purpose of God Jesus had to be born in the flesh God created man in, had to die in the flesh God created man in, and had to rise again from the dead in the flesh God created man in, FOR WHICH PURPOSE JESUS HAD TO DO EACH OF THESE THINGS ON "THE APPOINTED DAY" IN EARTH'S COSMIC TIME WHICH GOD HAD MADE AND PREDETERMINED TO EACH END IN ORDER TO RISE "AND GOD THE DAY THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH OF THE LORD GOD RESTED".

And that tells you why God "sanctified" and or "hallowed the Seventh Day" for Him to make an end of and fulfil, make come true because God is truthful, His Eternal Purpose of His Eternal Council-- to the hour as to the day as to the season TO HIS WILL, PLAN, DESIRE, PLEASURE AND: LAW, as for example written in John 13:1a. Yes, you can see the physicality and the temporality of God's Word of LAW in that short phrase if only you would.
 
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As Pia said everyday is made by God, so therefore everyday God made is Holy to those who are in Christ, everyday God gave us is a blessing, today is Sunday, it's a holy day, because it was made by God, we could even call it SON-day if we really wanted. There is the Seventh day, but what about the 6 before. He blessed us with His creation on each of the days before.
...as Pia and Josho chant yeah as if they, are God-- God only whose prerogative it is to create every day, give every day for everybody's own little holy world, but to sanctify, set apart, appoint and hallow one specific day unto HIMSELF, UNLIKE any other day, by virtue of NO other day per se because having been created by God, BUT the Seventh Day GOD, TO GOD'S OWN PURPOSE IN AND THROUGH JESUS CHRIST HALLOWED BY JESUS, HAVING RAISED FROM THE DEAD "ON THE SABBATH DAY".
 

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...as Pia and Josho chant yeah as if they, are God-- God only whose prerogative it is to create every day, give every day for everybody's own little holy world, but to sanctify, set apart, appoint and hallow one specific day unto HIMSELF, UNLIKE any other day, by virtue of NO other day per se because having been created by God, BUT the Seventh Day GOD, TO GOD'S OWN PURPOSE IN AND THROUGH JESUS CHRIST HALLOWED BY JESUS, HAVING RAISED FROM THE DEAD "ON THE SABBATH DAY".

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Rom 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

If you want to keep it, fine, but as it says, do not lay stumbling blocks before others, you keep one day. many keep all of them, as it says,

Gen_1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

wont add a single dot to your salvation, and it wont make God love you any more or less than He does now.
 
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