The Beasts that come from Sea, Earth, and Bottomless pit

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Revelation 11:7 (KJV) Against the 2 witnesses
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 13:1 (KJV)
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of Revelation 13:11 (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Revelation 17:8 (KJV)
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


So what is the: Sea - Earth - Bottomless pit ?
Since the beasts is symbolic of nations should these be also symbolic ?
 

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Sea can be symbolic of people, "a sea of people", so a beast can be a person under the influence of the evil one.

The earth can refere to a person or a group of people, for man was taken out of the earth, dust.

bottomless pit, is symbolic here for the lower, lowest hell.
hope that helped.

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Thanks for the reply
According to Rev 17
Some belief is the beast here is Rome with the 7 hills. If so that would make Rome coming from bottomless pit . Since it's people that makes up Rome and 10 kings is with it, I don't see it coming from beneath.
Any other thoughts ?
 

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Revelation 11:7 (KJV) Against the 2 witnesses
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 13:1 (KJV)
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of Revelation 13:11 (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Revelation 17:8 (KJV)
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

So what is the: Sea - Earth - Bottomless pit ?
Since the beasts is symbolic of nations should these be also symbolic ?


Just as in the Book of Daniel, Revelation 13 gives 2 beast types, the 1st is a beast kingdom, and the 2nd is a beast king, linked to the one who ascends out of the bottomless pit, which of course is Satan.

Does this say they worshipped the pope, or some flesh born man? No, it says they worshipped the "dragon", which Rev.12:9 revealed is another title for Satan himself.

Rev 13:4-8
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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Just as in the Book of Daniel, Revelation 13 gives 2 beast types, the 1st is a beast kingdom, and the 2nd is a beast king, linked to the one who ascends out of the bottomless pit, which of course is Satan.

Does this say they worshipped the pope, or some flesh born man? No, it says they worshipped the "dragon", which Rev.12:9 revealed is another title for Satan himself.

Rev 13:4-8
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
KJV
So is Satan in the bottomless pit now ? is he going to come out when God let's him ?
When did he go in ? Rev.12 says two places, heaven and earth.
 

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If we look at the Daniel 7 chapter, it speaks of the four winds/spirits of heaven manifesting in the sea as people rise up to do the respective beast's bidding.

In Isaiah 24:21-22 it speaks of God judging the heavenly hosts in heaven and that the heavenly hosts will be imprisoned for many days before they are punished.

In Revelation 12:7-12 we are told that Satan and his angels are judged in heaven and thrown down to the earth. In Daniel 7:11-12 we are told that in heaven the beasts of Daniel 7:1-10 are also judged and their dominion influence is removed from them and that they are allowed to live for a season and a little while.

The Beasts in scripture are wicked fallen demonic heavenly hosts, which means that the respective beasts can influence mankind over long period of time. However, the influence of the beasts over people ebbs and wanes as the people move into and out of the influential domains of the respective beasts. During the 1,000 years that Satan and the beasts/Satan's angels are locked up in the Bottomless pit, Satan's Good and faithful servants will continue to do the work of Satan until he comes back, i.e. the parables of the Pounds and the talents.

Paul in Ephesians 6:12 tells us that the saints will be fighting against the influences of the wicked heavenly hosts, i.e. the beasts of Daniel 7.

Sadly the wicked heavenly hosts are seemingly invisible to man and as such because we see the influence of the beasts manifested in the various people groups, we wrongly attribute these manifestations of the beasts to be the actual beasts.

Because of the habitual understanding, tradition has become ingrown into our thinking, it is very difficult to break the wrong understandings that people have concerning the beasts.

The beasts are spiritual entities that presently have access to heaven, but in our near future, they will be judged and imprisoned for 1,000 years after which they will be released for a short period of time, possibly for 20 plus years before they will be punished by being dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

So is Satan in the bottomless pit now?
No.
Is he going to come out when God let's him ?
Yes, after the bottomless pit is unlocked.
When did he go in ? Rev.12 says two places, heaven and earth.
Satan will be imprisoned in our near future after the Armageddon event. Revelation 12 does not tell us that Satan and his angels will be imprisoned, however, the chapter jumps over the time of his imprisonment for 1,000 years when it begins to describe that Satan realises that his time is short.


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Thanks for the reply
According to Rev 17
Some belief is the beast here is Rome with the 7 hills. If so that would make Rome coming from bottomless pit . Since it's people that makes up Rome and 10 kings is with it, I don't see it coming from beneath.
Any other thoughts ?
First thanks for the reply, second, Jerusalem has seven hill also..... and Rome rose while in her. and the beast at Jerusalem was a Political and religious entity.

as in chapter 12, the Political and religious entity was king Herod, symbolic of the Great red Dragon. and the chief priest of that day. power residing between both entities. who war against, overcame, and killed the 2 witnesses here of Revelation chapter 11. and these two witness are John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus, symbolic of Elijah and Moses.

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So is Satan in the bottomless pit now ? is he going to come out when God let's him ?
When did he go in ? Rev.12 says two places, heaven and earth.

The bottomless pit is an expression for the heavenly realm of Hades (i.e., "hell" in some KJV instances). It is the side of Paradise where the rich man of Luke 16 was taken to. Satan is king over it.

Just as in Job 1, and his still being able to roam per 1 Peter 5:8, Satan is free to go up and down in the earth still today, but in the heavenly dimension.

Per Rev.12:8 as a result of the war in Heaven in the near future, "... neither was their place found any more in heaven." Do you realize what that means? There is only two different dimensions of existence written of in God's Word, this earthly one we live in, and the heavenly one in which God and the angels live in, which Satan's kingdom of hell is in also. When Rev.12:8 comes true, it will mean Satan and his angels cast out of the Heavenly dimension into our earthly dimension, right here on earth in... plain sight. The world will see Satan as he is, a beautiful being. But they will not know it is him. He will be disguised as Christ.
 

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1st Beast: Rev.13:1-2, rises up out of the sea, has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. It is associated with the images of beast kingdoms given in Daniel 7. This 1st beast is a kingdom beast. Any time you see the horns, heads, or crowns mentioned, it's about this 1st beast, a kingdom beast. It is a system upon the earth.

2nd Beast: Rev.13:11 forward; the "another beast", comes up out of the earth, has two horns LIKE a lamb, speaks as a dragon (Satan). This the beast king, a singular entity with supernatural powers to work great signs and miracles on earth in the sight of men. This supernatural working defines this 2nd beast as being different than any other man that walked the earth, excepting our Lord Jesus Christ. This is the angel of the bottomless pit (ascends up out of the earth, i.e., the bottomless pit).

Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

KJV

This is Satan, the king over the bottomless pit. He is a cherub, and an angel.

Rev 11:7
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

KJV

Which beast from Rev.13 is this one above? It is the 2nd beast, the "another beast" that will work great wonders and miracles to deceive the whole world. God's two witnesses will make a stand against his kingdom and lies, which is why he will be moved to murder God's two witnesses towards the end of the tribulation.


Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

KJV

Which beast is this one? We are shown another of his attributes, i.e., that he is already judged and sentenced to perdition (i.e, perish in the future "lake of fire"). It is the 2nd beast, the "another beast" of Rev.13. It is Satan, for only he and his angels have already been judged and sentenced to perish in the lake of fire. No flesh man has been judged to perish yet today.



Rev 20:1-3
20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.


2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,


3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

KJV

When the above happens, which the further Rev.20 verses reveal is right after Christ's second coming and gathering of His Church, that dragon, Satan, will be bound in chains in his pit prison. Until then he is free to roam the earth, seeking whom he may devour.
 

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This is another view that I have heard and read.

The Beasts like in Daniel 7, they were description of those world powered nations.
Babylon, Medo Persa, Greece, and Rome
So it would show those nations with a beastly nature.
In Rev.13 the sea beast had a combination of those natures.
So those world powered nations is a beast nation, not just one person only.

Now as far as the sea, earth and bottomless pit - all the same place, this would be the ungodly humanity, this is where those nations came from.
The Bottomless pit has no foundation. God's Kingdom(church) has a foundation stone(Jesus).
The bottomless pit is Satan home among the ungodly world. He uses his influence to rise up against the Kingdom of God(church)
The Bottomless is still controlled by God for he still rules in the kingdom of men.
Satan gets locked in the pit, so he must have been somewhere where he is not allowed anymore for awhile.

Satan himself has a beastly nature - red dragon
He give what ever power he has to those rulers to control God's people.

So I can't see the bottomless pit being a natural bottomless hole in the earth, there is not such place, you going to hit bottom.
So it must be symbolic, just like Satan having 7 heads 10 horns.
 

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This is another view that I have heard and read.

The Beasts like in Daniel 7, they were description of those world powered nations.
Babylon, Medo Persa, Greece, and Rome
So it would show those nations with a beastly nature.
In Rev.13 the sea beast had a combination of those natures.
So those world powered nations is a beast nation, not just one person only.

Now as far as the sea, earth and bottomless pit - all the same place, this would be the ungodly humanity, this is where those nations came from.
The Bottomless pit has no foundation. God's Kingdom(church) has a foundation stone(Jesus).
The bottomless pit is Satan home among the ungodly world. He uses his influence to rise up against the Kingdom of God(church)
The Bottomless is still controlled by God for he still rules in the kingdom of men.
Satan gets locked in the pit, so he must have been somewhere where he is not allowed anymore for awhile.

Satan himself has a beastly nature - red dragon
He give what ever power he has to those rulers to control God's people.

So I can't see the bottomless pit being a natural bottomless hole in the earth, there is not such place, you going to hit bottom.
So it must be symbolic, just like Satan having 7 heads 10 horns.

Notice the beast mentioned in Rev.12:3-4 along with the time when Satan as the "red dragon" drew a third of the stars (angels) to earth with him. That represents a time of old, when he first rebelled against God, a time prior to Adam and Eve. It had seven crowns. The Rev.13 beast is to have ten crowns. If one doesn't understand that, then they won't understand what the end of this world is really about.
 

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Revelation 11:7 (KJV) Against the 2 witnesses
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 13:1 (KJV)
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of Revelation 13:11 (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Revelation 17:8 (KJV)
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


So what is the: Sea - Earth - Bottomless pit ?
Since the beasts is symbolic of nations should these be also symbolic ?

The 'bottomless pit'/ also translated as 'abyss' is a generic term for both the 'sea' & 'earth'. The 'sea' & 'earth' entities are specifically the 'will come' portion of Revelation 17:8
"The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come.
In Hebrew, the word for 'sea' also means 'abyss' Strong's Hebrew: 8415. תְּהוֹם (tehom) -- deep, sea, abyss

So, the 'beast from the bottomless pit/ abyss' comes up at the start of the Day of the Lord (2 Thess 2:3-4

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.​

The 5th Trumpet's Destroyer/ Apollyon comes up from the 'bottomless pit/ abyss' at the start of the Day of the Lord, start of the 5 months before the 6th Trumpet. At the 7th Trumpet/ 3rd woe, Destroyer is now the 11th horn/ little horn ruling the beast from the sea's 7 headed, 10 horned, & 10 crowns entity that is 'coming up out of the abyss'. (first he 'was', then was not, then he 'is' at the 7th Trumpet's beast from the sea).

the 'abyss' is generically referring to the 'sea & earth', while the 'beast from the sea & beast from the earth' terms are specifically referring to its' last stage, the beast from the sea & earth at the 3rd woe/ 7th Trumpet.
 

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The 'bottomless pit'/ also translated as 'abyss' is a generic term for both the 'sea' & 'earth'. The 'sea' & 'earth' entities are specifically the 'will come' portion of Revelation 17:8
"The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come.
In Hebrew, the word for 'sea' also means 'abyss' Strong's Hebrew: 8415. תְּהוֹם (tehom) -- deep, sea, abyss

So, the 'beast from the bottomless pit/ abyss' comes up at the start of the Day of the Lord (2 Thess 2:3-4

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.​

The 5th Trumpet's Destroyer/ Apollyon comes up from the 'bottomless pit/ abyss' at the start of the Day of the Lord, start of the 5 months before the 6th Trumpet. At the 7th Trumpet/ 3rd woe, Destroyer is now the 11th horn/ little horn ruling the beast from the sea's 7 headed, 10 horned, & 10 crowns entity that is 'coming up out of the abyss'. (first he 'was', then was not, then he 'is' at the 7th Trumpet's beast from the sea).

the 'abyss' is generically referring to the 'sea & earth', while the 'beast from the sea & beast from the earth' terms are specifically referring to its' last stage, the beast from the sea & earth at the 3rd woe/ 7th Trumpet.
Just want to understand you clearly
So is it literal or symbolic ?
Is there going to be natural beast from the sea and earth and bottomless pit ?
If the little horn is ruling the beast then this must represent nations of people.
 

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Notice the beast mentioned in Rev.12:3-4 along with the time when Satan as the "red dragon" drew a third of the stars (angels) to earth with him. That represents a time of old, when he first rebelled against God, a time prior to Adam and Eve. It had seven crowns. The Rev.13 beast is to have ten crowns. If one doesn't understand that, then they won't understand what the end of this world is really about.
So in Rev.12 when the crowns are on the heads, It was to show he has power with all 7 head nations at sometime events ??

Rev.13 Sea was a one of those head but the crowns are on the ten horns at this time.
Same as Daniel 7 the 4th beast and Daniel 2 the Iron and clay tens toes. ???
 

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Revelation 11:7 (KJV) Against the 2 witnesses
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 13:1 (KJV)
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of Revelation 13:11 (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Revelation 17:8 (KJV)
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


So what is the: Sea - Earth - Bottomless pit ?
Since the beasts is symbolic of nations should these be also symbolic ?
The "sea" is the spirit, of which there is "waters above and waters below."

The "earth" is the created world.

The "bottomless pit" is the eternal hell and evil.
 

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Rev.17
If we take notice, the Harlot sits upon many waters - now what is that ? it tells it in there in v15 people, nations and tongues
Now can this be the same as the sea ?

The woman sits on the mountains - now could that be earth ?

The Beast is in the wilderness - another place where the beast is and 10 kings
Wilderness ???
 

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Rev.17
If we take notice, the Harlot sits upon many waters - now what is that ? it tells it in there in v15 people, nations and tongues
Now can this be the same as the sea ?

The woman sits on the mountains - now could that be earth ?

The Beast is in the wilderness - another place where the beast is and 10 kings
Wilderness ???
The waters here are in the plural meaning many, as in peoples, and tongues, or nations, (see ACTS chapter 2, which they was dwelling in Jerusalem). for a sea is water.

and the woman, the harlot, is a CITY, Jerusalem, natural Jerusalem. Revelation 17:18 "And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth". how do we know that Jerusalem is that CITY?, the key word "GREAT CITY". Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified". BINGO, the "Great City" is Jerusalem, natural Jerusalem. supportive scripture, Isaiah 1:10 "Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah". Now Egypt, Isaiah 51:9 "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?". did this not happen when Jesus gave his life for us on the Cross. was not the dragon wounded?, another word for wound is bruise. scripture, Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel". here the dragon head is wonded, Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast". this should open a few doors.

so the WATERS are many nations and tongues of Peoples.

hope this helped.

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Just want to understand you clearly
So is it literal or symbolic ?
Is there going to be natural beast from the sea and earth and bottomless pit ?
If the little horn is ruling the beast then this must represent nations of people.

The 'abyss', 'sea' & 'earth' are symbolic. The 'beast from the abyss/ bottomless pit' aka Apollyon/ 'destroyer' is a destroyer of souls

Matt 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.​

The 'dragon' is not a literal beast flying around (although there could be that element involved). Satan is not Godzilla, but Satan would like you to think that he is, because it is easier to fight an external enemy than to examine your own self.

The 'destroyer of souls' tempts people into worshiping a false god via idols.
 

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So in Rev.12 when the crowns are on the heads, It was to show he has power with all 7 head nations at sometime events ??

Rev.13 Sea was a one of those head but the crowns are on the ten horns at this time.
Same as Daniel 7 the 4th beast and Daniel 2 the Iron and clay tens toes. ???

The Daniel 7 4th 'terrible' beast kingdom with 10 horns is Revelation 12 & 13's 'dragon' that gives his throne & authority to the little horn/ Apollyon.

At Revelation 12, the dragon kingdom has its 7th head (7 heads, 10 horns, 7 crowns) Revelation 12:1-3. (shortly before the beast from the sea & earth kill the 2 witnesses. 266 days to be precise, the exact length of pregnancy, before the end of the 2 witnesses 1260 days: Overview of Revelation 2019.pdf

At Revelation 13, the beast from the sea has 7 heads, 10 horns, 10 crowns; meaning that the Daniel 7 little horn (the 11th horn with the mouth that blasphemes God) has been given power by the 10 kings to wage war against the saints (Revelation 17:11-14).
 

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The Daniel 7 4th 'terrible' beast kingdom with 10 horns is Revelation 12 & 13's 'dragon' that gives his throne & authority to the little horn/ Apollyon.

At Revelation 12, the dragon kingdom has its 7th head (7 heads, 10 horns, 7 crowns) Revelation 12:1-3. (shortly before the beast from the sea & earth kill the 2 witnesses. 266 days to be precise, the exact length of pregnancy, before the end of the 2 witnesses 1260 days: Overview of Revelation 2019.pdf

At Revelation 13, the beast from the sea has 7 heads, 10 horns, 10 crowns; meaning that the Daniel 7 little horn (the 11th horn with the mouth that blasphemes God) has been given power by the 10 kings to wage war against the saints (Revelation 17:11-14).
I do see Rev.11 and 12 and 13 is the same iron Kingdom Beast, but parts of it earlier in the time frame.
I do see Rev.17 beast with no crowns is the revive kingdom of one before. Its the future Beast. Still iron.
I think in our time we have the wounded beast still alive, but it lost its ten kings power. 1798 put into prison.
To be healed when the 10 kings give power to it again. Rev.17