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Years ago, my elderly father was driving home, and blew a tire. While he was opening the trunk, a group of bikers pulled over behind him. They looked pretty rough. He figured he was in trouble, but he couldn't have been more wrong. They changed his tire for him, and and then drove away. He told me that it taught him a lesson about stereotyping people.
Cool. About 12 folks in my Church (including the Pastor) are or were avid motorcyclists. That group is getting old and frankly, are spending more time on spiritual things... They still like cycling and talking about it... But they aren't doing the big rides they used to do.
 

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No, I don't. When I see garbage coming I tend not pollute my mind with such.

With that in mind, I am out there with other Christian people and being one myself... So you may be right... There may be posts about it and you tube videos... But that doesn't mean "so many Christians hate Israel.".

I am not a motorcyclist, but I hear they have "1%" theory. That is, only 1% of motorcyclists out there are of the "biker gang" type. And this 1% gives the other 99% a bad rep.

I don't know if that percentile is the same with Christianity... But I would bet the concept is the same. You got the infamous Westboro types out there... But I don't believe the typical Christian hates Israel.

The problem is the radicals tend to have the louder voices.
Weeds do stink louder than the roses fragrant voices.LOL!
 

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No, I don't. When I see garbage coming I tend not pollute my mind with such.

With that in mind, I am out there with other Christian people and being one myself... So you may be right... There may be posts about it and you tube videos... But that doesn't mean "so many Christians hate Israel.".

I am not a motorcyclist, but I hear they have "1%" theory. That is, only 1% of motorcyclists out there are of the "biker gang" type. And this 1% gives the other 99% a bad rep.

I don't know if that percentile is the same with Christianity... But I would bet the concept is the same. You got the infamous Westboro types out there... But I don't believe the typical Christian hates Israel.

The problem is the radicals tend to have the louder voices.

You cannot protect yourself from an enemy you do not now, there is a reason why countries have spies everywhere, but there where some posts flying around before I took my break from all this, doing just that, denying Israel,
 

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You cannot protect yourself from an enemy you do not now,
So I should listen to such garbage so I can know them? I will recheck the book of Proverbs, but I don't recall too many verses that say to listen to fools so you can protect yourself from them... But there's a whole bunch of verses that say don't listen to them.
 

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What puzzles me is the number of Christians who love Israel, but despise Jewish Americans. I wish someone could explain that to me. At a time when anti-Semitic violence is increasing on the right, it's an important question.
I can not speak for the USA but in Australia the Jews were always looked down on for being greedy, every Jew I know is greedy to the point of insanity as that's their life ambition, it's all about who is going to be the richest person in the grave yard.

Many live a life of being so frugal but have plenty of money millions even, but you would think that they were down and out broke as the what that they live, I know plenty like that real well for years, they drive around in old junk cars, if a cop puled them up they cry poor, have a house that looks like it's going to fall down because they can not bear to part with money and if they have to then they do not like paying for the job and will cause as much trouble as they can and try to get out of paying for work done, I have seen it time and time again over the years that I contracted, them and people from India are the worst, I would not give such as them the time of day as I got bitten enough to give up on them, as that type only cost you money trying to look after them morons.
People who work for a wage have no idea they live in a fairyland. if I was only on a hourly rate working for such people I would only be to happy to go along with all their nonsense games, but if I was on a hourly rate they would make sure that I was treated like royalty and given free go at it, so as to finish up and get out as quickly as they can get you out the door and they would be on hand to help in any way, but as for a contract :rolleyes:.
Not to mention that the younger generation are a disgrace to work for as well especial uni educated people, I am not surprised if they are degenerate sidewinding trash at all as they seriously lack humanity.
White South Africans are trash as well when it comes to working for them and money.
It's a general typical that trait of such people that just does not surprise me at all to have such traits, not all however are in fact mind, but it's only my opinion from 48 years in my job. all people can be good but when it comes to money :rolleyes: oh boy ! how they can change.

I have a Jewish mate just up the road 59yo and he can not afford to have a car, as he only has $2 million in the Bank and he is running around having kittens, he was a total lefty full on all his life worked for the Government and after getting the sack now he is a right wing voter now because he is now self funded retired. no one would give such a person a job, he would only try and sue them for anything thing he could dream up, that's the nature of working for the government they live in a fantasy land all their life and he thinks that he has been screwed over :confused: he would not know what such was in fact. try having a deal that cost you a year or two work to catch up on to get back where you were sort of and this type of crap happens because people go bankrupt and etc etc. not your fault ? and he wants to kill someone :rolleyes: oh boy ! he has no idea. if he was broke and on the dole he would still be a full on lefty trying to squander everything that he could out of them.

It's a worldly nature that is responsible for such peoples actions because they do not abide in Christ Jesus, too be a Giving loving person, their heart is cold for Satan controls them.
 

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What is an edom Jew? And there is no such thing as a "Jew" period. Because of who Jesus was and where he came from makes all a Jew for being one in Christ. So whether one is a literal Jew or not it does not matter because we are all one and the same in Jesus by his blood and by his flesh and blood by spirit and water we become a purified "Jew" reborn in Christ so a Jew can be anyone on this earth not by race or color but by Jesus blood which is made of spirit and water (the holy spirit)....but y'all keep lying to yall selves... John 3:3 Galatians 3:28

Your post is irrelevant to the topic. Having been interested in all things Jewish since I was in my 20s (I am now 78) and received teaching from Jewish experts like Lance Lambert and Derek Prince I can assure you that a race known as Jews exists and are alive and well and live in Israel in the Middle East. Plus the word of God prophesies that there will be a mass aliyah from all corners of the earth by Jews to Israel in the last days.

And God has said that he would bless the nations that bless the Jews. Why do you think the US is as powerful as it is? Answer. Because of its unwavering support of the Jews in Israel.
 
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I can not speak for the USA but in Australia the Jews were always looked down on for being greedy, every Jew I know is greedy to the point of insanity as that's their life ambition, it's all about who is going to be the richest person in the grave yard.

Many live a life of being so frugal but have plenty of money millions even, but you would think that they were down and out broke as the what that they live, I know plenty like that real well for years, they drive around in old junk cars, if a cop puled them up they cry poor, have a house that looks like it's going to fall down because they can not bear to part with money and if they have to then they do not like paying for the job and will cause as much trouble as they can and try to get out of paying for work done, I have seen it time and time again over the years that I contracted, them and people from India are the worst, I would not give such as them the time of day as I got bitten enough to give up on them, as that type only cost you money trying to look after them morons.
People who work for a wage have no idea they live in a fairyland. if I was only on a hourly rate working for such people I would only be to happy to go along with all their nonsense games, but if I was on a hourly rate they would make sure that I was treated like royalty and given free go at it, so as to finish up and get out as quickly as they can get you out the door and they would be on hand to help in any way, but as for a contract :rolleyes:.
Not to mention that the younger generation are a disgrace to work for as well especial uni educated people, I am not surprised if they are degenerate sidewinding trash at all as they seriously lack humanity.
White South Africans are trash as well when it comes to working for them and money.
It's a general typical that trait of such people that just does not surprise me at all to have such traits, not all however are in fact mind, but it's only my opinion from 48 years in my job. all people can be good but when it comes to money :rolleyes: oh boy ! how they can change.

I have a Jewish mate just up the road 59yo and he can not afford to have a car, as he only has $2 million in the Bank and he is running around having kittens, he was a total lefty full on all his life worked for the Government and after getting the sack now he is a right wing voter now because he is now self funded retired. no one would give such a person a job, he would only try and sue them for anything thing he could dream up, that's the nature of working for the government they live in a fantasy land all their life and he thinks that he has been screwed over :confused: he would not know what such was in fact. try having a deal that cost you a year or two work to catch up on to get back where you were sort of and this type of crap happens because people go bankrupt and etc etc. not your fault ? and he wants to kill someone :rolleyes: oh boy ! he has no idea. if he was broke and on the dole he would still be a full on lefty trying to squander everything that he could out of them.

It's a worldly nature that is responsible for such peoples actions because they do not abide in Christ Jesus, too be a Giving loving person, their heart is cold for Satan controls them.

Having studied the history of the Jews and the Jewish people it is very clear that God has given his chosen people attributes that enables them to be successful, especially money-wise.

As far as I can remember, the Jews with six million people have earned 127 Noble Prizes mainly for advancement in medicine and technology. In the surrounding Arab states of 258 million, they have nine. Speaks volumes doesn't it. They would rather spend their time and money trying to get rid of the Jews.
 

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And God has said that he would bless the nations that bless the Jews. Why do you think the US is as powerful as it is? Answer. Because of its unwavering support of the Jews in Israel.

In the 1930s, and WWII, the U.S. officially turned it's back on Jews. Precisely when we grew into the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world.
 

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Why do so many christians Hate Israel..

I have often asked myself that question. I believe basically those that do hate Israel have no sense of connection to the foundations of our faith. (This usually comes about by faulty teaching. (E.G. I once had a Lutheran pastor whose 12-year-old daughter honestly thought that Jesus was German).
When we truly realize that Jesus, the Apostles, the Prophets were all Jewish and the Jews have been entrusted with the oracles of God, AND when one realizes that God is not finished with His dealings with the Jews in His long range goals for them as a group, then one isn't so quick to harbor hatred towards Israel.
Otherwise, perhaps envy, jealousy etc. because God chose a certain people and Land to be at the center of His dealings. (Globalists hate this biblical concept).
 
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Having studied the history of the Jews and the Jewish people it is very clear that God has given his chosen people attributes that enables them to be successful, especially money-wise.

As far as I can remember, the Jews with six million people have earned 127 Noble Prizes mainly for advancement in medicine and technology. In the surrounding Arab states of 258 million, they have nine. Speaks volumes doesn't it. They would rather spend their time and money trying to get rid of the Jews.
All tho I would not count having a lot of money as successful, every Christian should know that fact.
Boy from what i have seen the poorest of human beings have a lot of money, there children despise them for the grubs that they truly are, as a very poor human and their wife's do not love them for who they are, but only look to what they are.

The worldly see things differently, on a ego basis. look what I did or can do, not what you are.

A Jewish mate that i knew his whole life died claiming he did it his way, that was the song at the funeral. boy he sure did ! Spite to his wife and her boy and spite to his only brother, not to mention that was what he thought was power. Vengeance ? how pathetic can one get. it's so very sad. boy I would hate to be that. there was nothing that I could do about him and he was one of my best mates and he always said I was his best mate, but we never seen eye to eye and argued a lot.

Another Jewish mate really idolises people who make advancements in medical practice, as if they are gods among us. because they are saving lives, because they fear death ? but they are already dead because they do not have life in them of Jesus Christ. that gives you life abundantly ?
It's some what like a grub that has not became a butterfly and can fly ? one could say sort of. because they refused the Gift.
How sad to be living a life of only existing not knowing who you truly are.

I have never seen a Jew treat any Arab with dignity, but only did and do wrong to them, for they are both Carnal fools. religion will not save you, even Atheist are religious in fact but just because they reject the fact does not make it so, as all they do is run around rejecting everything they want to reject because it does not suit their own ego.

There is only one way and that is through Jesus Christ.

Any clown that claims they are Politically Correct has a religion right their as they live it as their god and that's a fact ! just like Communism it's the same god idolised that must be obeyed or else the zealots want to have a field day and string anyone up. and such bastards claim it's Christians that do his, well it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, but they reject him as they surly don't want him in their life's that's clear, they are just like the thief on the cross who rejects Jesus.
 

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Why do so many christians Hate Israel..

I have often asked myself that question. I believe basically those that do hate Israel have no sense of connection to the foundations of our faith. (This usually comes about by faulty teaching. (E.G. I once had a Lutheran pastor whose 12-year-old daughter honestly thought that Jesus was German).
When we truly realize that Jesus, the Apostles, the Prophets were all Jewish and the Jews have been entrusted with the oracles of God, AND when one realizes that God is not finished with His dealings with the Jews in His long range goals for them as a group, then one isn't so quick to harbor hatred towards Israel.
Otherwise, perhaps envy, jealousy etc. because God chose a certain people and Land to be at the center of His dealings. (Globalists hate this biblical concept).
God is never finished with anyone in fact and we are all the centre of his dealings.
It has nothing to do with the Land, it's about the whole world coming to Jesus Christ end of story. that's the message Christ gave us all, nothing to do with race ect at all, that message is abundantly clear because their is nether Jew or Gentile under Christianity. it's the Gift that is free to all. that's all people as all you have to do is pick it up and abide in the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit will abide in you and you will become a light in the world.

You can do nothing without Jesus, all is in vain outside of him ! so why go outside of Him ? everything that we all need is in Jesus Christ as he is the wellspring we must come to always and nothing but that ! or their will be a stumbling stone in the path that you will come a gutser on real badly.
 
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God is never finished with anyone in fact and we are all the centre of his dealings.
It has nothing to do with the Land, it's about the whole world coming to Jesus Christ end of story. that's the message Christ gave us all, nothing to do with race ect at all, that message is abundantly clear because their is nether Jew or Gentile under Christianity. it's the Gift that is free to all. that's all people as all you have to do is pick it up and abide in the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit will abide in you and you will become a light in the world.

You can do nothing without Jesus, all is in vain outside of him ! so why go outside of Him ? everything that we all need is in Jesus Christ as he is the wellspring we must come to always and nothing but that ! or their will be a stumbling stone in the path that you will come a gutser on real badly.
There are set times with God...

Luke 21:24 NKJV
[24] And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Also you can't use the 'no Jew/Gentile passage as it is speaking of Justification and 'in Christ' otherwise there are no more males and females as that is in the same passage as well.

Also Paul makes his own distinction...

Romans 11:13,25-29 NKJV
[13] For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, [25] For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. [26] And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; [27] For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins." [28] Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. [29] For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
 
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Having studied the history of the Jews and the Jewish people it is very clear that God has given his chosen people attributes that enables them to be successful, especially money-wise.

As far as I can remember, the Jews with six million people have earned 127 Noble Prizes mainly for advancement in medicine and technology. In the surrounding Arab states of 258 million, they have nine. Speaks volumes doesn't it. They would rather spend their time and money trying to get rid of the Jews.

I believe God blessed the Jewish Nation with detail and accuracy. No wonder He chose them to bring us the scriptures.
 

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Your post is irrelevant to the topic. Having been interested in all things Jewish since I was in my 20s (I am now 78) and received teaching from Jewish experts like Lance Lambert and Derek Prince I can assure you that a race known as Jews exists and are alive and well and live in Israel in the Middle East. Plus the word fo God prophesies that there will be a mass aliyah from all corners of the earth by Jews to Israel in the last days.

And God has said that he would bless the nations that bless the Jews. Why do you think the US is as powerful as it is? Answer. Because of its unwavering support of the Jews in Israel.
The USA got rich from the Talmud Jews who created WW2 and now the USA is on it's death bed bankrupt and giving tax payers money to the Talmud whore.
The Talmud Jews totally control the USA as they use it's Presidents as their puppets, they have created a sh1t hole in the USA, prostitution gambling you name it and it is they that have bastardised Christianity over them years, the churches do not stand up against such degenerates anymore and with there creation of Vatican 2 and all the stupid Protestants that keep changing their perspectives to suit Sodomites and all grubs is plain to see that they have all been totally corrupted. wimpy gutless priest are everywhere, they take their orders from their religious leaders, but not God !

Their is nothing to such so called Jews, they are not truly Jews anyway. the Talmud is a Whore and their so called Zionist are Nazis, Socialist dictating bastards who are trying to destroy the USA constitution, the True devout Jews know this fact and they say that this mob does not represent them, they have marched in the streets about this in the State called Israel and New York. but the Satanic Talmud owns the Media and the Media kept such under wraps noting to see here. it's just as the Media in Nazi Germany took over all the Media, only the Zionist newspapers were allowed to print and the 90% of other Jewish Papers were banned ! because the real Jews who were in Germany did not swallow the so called Zionist dribble and they had to be shut down, freedom of speech was to become Politically Correct only, or you became regarded as an enemy of the State. them 6 million Jews were ear marked to be killed by the Talmud Whore and it's use full idiots the Socialist Nazis who were totally fooled and lead astray, what a bunch of total morons that they were and the Germans got shafted big time ! just like the USA has been.
I can see how the Talmud played the Nazis, it all comes together like clock work and the same with the USA, it's all designed to destroy them, the Devil is on the way, Satanism is getting that much power again, and anyone who does not believe that Satanism is clearly totally on the rise must be a total moron, deviates are strutting about everywhere and you have no rights to challenge such behaviour now and your school kids are being subjected to all sodomy being a right and you have no rights to what your Children are being exposed to ! it's Nazi Germany brainwashing techniques being used, in just a different way, but the end result is the same, they disobey their parents totally and stand over them as they are possessed by evil spirits.

I see nothing wrong with Jesus Christ at all and He did all that he had to do and one must follow in him and only him shall you serve and you will not go wrong, that's the Key ! and anything other that that is the working of great delusions the deceptions Satan. Jews indeed :rolleyes: they are avoid, dupes who know not Jesus at all, so why idolise such who reject Jesus ? such a one who idolises such as that is not worthy of the Kingdom of God. for such is looking too another Jesus = Satan.
If one is not sound in Jesus as the Christ, you are lost, why look to another, it's because your heart is elsewhere. it's not in the Kingdom of God.
 

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The USA got rich from the Talmud Jews who created WW2 and now the USA is on it's death bed bankrupt and giving tax payers money to the Talmud whore.
The Talmud Jews totally control the USA as they use it's Presidents as their puppets, they have created a sh1t hole in the USA, prostitution gambling you name it and it is they that have bastardised Christianity over them years, the churches do not stand up against such degenerates anymore and with there creation of Vatican 2 and all the stupid Protestants that keep changing their perspectives to suit Sodomites and all grubs is plain to see that they have all been totally corrupted. wimpy gutless priest are everywhere, they take their orders from their religious leaders, but not God !

Their is nothing to such so called Jews, they are not truly Jews anyway. the Talmud is a Whore and their so called Zionist are Nazis, Socialist dictating bastards who are trying to destroy the USA constitution, the True devout Jews know this fact and they say that this mob does not represent them, they have marched in the streets about this in the State called Israel and New York. but the Satanic Talmud owns the Media and the Media kept such under wraps noting to see here. it's just as the Media in Nazi Germany took over all the Media, only the Zionist newspapers were allowed to print and the 90% of other Jewish Papers were banned ! because the real Jews who were in Germany did not swallow the so called Zionist dribble and they had to be shut down, freedom of speech was to become Politically Correct only, or you became regarded as an enemy of the State. them 6 million Jews were ear marked to be killed by the Talmud Whore and it's use full idiots the Socialist Nazis who were totally fooled and lead astray, what a bunch of total morons that they were and the Germans got shafted big time ! just like the USA has been.
I can see how the Talmud played the Nazis, it all comes together like clock work and the same with the USA, it's all designed to destroy them, the Devil is on the way, Satanism is getting that much power again, and anyone who does not believe that Satanism is clearly totally on the rise must be a total moron, deviates are strutting about everywhere and you have no rights to challenge such behaviour now and your school kids are being subjected to all sodomy being a right and you have no rights to what your Children are being exposed to ! it's Nazi Germany brainwashing techniques being used, in just a different way, but the end result is the same, they disobey their parents totally and stand over them as they are possessed by evil spirits.

I see nothing wrong with Jesus Christ at all and He did all that he had to do and one must follow in him and only him shall you serve and you will not go wrong, that's the Key ! and anything other that that is the working of great delusions the deceptions Satan. Jews indeed :rolleyes: they are avoid, dupes who know not Jesus at all, so why idolise such who reject Jesus ? such a one who idolises such as that is not worthy of the Kingdom of God. for such is looking too another Jesus = Satan.
If one is not sound in Jesus as the Christ, you are lost, why look to another, it's because your heart is elsewhere. it's not in the Kingdom of God.
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The USA got rich from the Talmud Jews who created WW2 and now the USA is on it's death bed bankrupt and giving tax payers money to the Talmud whore.
The Talmud Jews totally control the USA as they use it's Presidents as their puppets, they have created a sh1t hole in the USA, prostitution gambling you name it and it is they that have bastardised Christianity over them years, the churches do not stand up against such degenerates anymore and with there creation of Vatican 2 and all the stupid Protestants that keep changing their perspectives to suit Sodomites and all grubs is plain to see that they have all been totally corrupted. wimpy gutless priest are everywhere, they take their orders from their religious leaders, but not God !

Their is nothing to such so called Jews, they are not truly Jews anyway. the Talmud is a Whore and their so called Zionist are Nazis, Socialist dictating bastards who are trying to destroy the USA constitution, the True devout Jews know this fact and they say that this mob does not represent them, they have marched in the streets about this in the State called Israel and New York. but the Satanic Talmud owns the Media and the Media kept such under wraps noting to see here. it's just as the Media in Nazi Germany took over all the Media, only the Zionist newspapers were allowed to print and the 90% of other Jewish Papers were banned ! because the real Jews who were in Germany did not swallow the so called Zionist dribble and they had to be shut down, freedom of speech was to become Politically Correct only, or you became regarded as an enemy of the State. them 6 million Jews were ear marked to be killed by the Talmud Whore and it's use full idiots the Socialist Nazis who were totally fooled and lead astray, what a bunch of total morons that they were and the Germans got shafted big time ! just like the USA has been.
I can see how the Talmud played the Nazis, it all comes together like clock work and the same with the USA, it's all designed to destroy them, the Devil is on the way, Satanism is getting that much power again, and anyone who does not believe that Satanism is clearly totally on the rise must be a total moron, deviates are strutting about everywhere and you have no rights to challenge such behaviour now and your school kids are being subjected to all sodomy being a right and you have no rights to what your Children are being exposed to ! it's Nazi Germany brainwashing techniques being used, in just a different way, but the end result is the same, they disobey their parents totally and stand over them as they are possessed by evil spirits.

I see nothing wrong with Jesus Christ at all and He did all that he had to do and one must follow in him and only him shall you serve and you will not go wrong, that's the Key ! and anything other that that is the working of great delusions the deceptions Satan. Jews indeed :rolleyes: they are avoid, dupes who know not Jesus at all, so why idolise such who reject Jesus ? such a one who idolises such as that is not worthy of the Kingdom of God. for such is looking too another Jesus = Satan.
If one is not sound in Jesus as the Christ, you are lost, why look to another, it's because your heart is elsewhere. it's not in the Kingdom of God.

You have got a bee in your bonnet haven't you.
 

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All tho I would not count having a lot of money as successful, every Christian should know that fact.
Boy from what i have seen the poorest of human beings have a lot of money, there children despise them for the grubs that they truly are, as a very poor human and their wife's do not love them for who they are, but only look to what they are.

The worldly see things differently, on a ego basis. look what I did or can do, not what you are.

A Jewish mate that i knew his whole life died claiming he did it his way, that was the song at the funeral. boy he sure did ! Spite to his wife and her boy and spite to his only brother, not to mention that was what he thought was power. Vengeance ? how pathetic can one get. it's so very sad. boy I would hate to be that. there was nothing that I could do about him and he was one of my best mates and he always said I was his best mate, but we never seen eye to eye and argued a lot.

Another Jewish mate really idolises people who make advancements in medical practice, as if they are gods among us. because they are saving lives, because they fear death ? but they are already dead because they do not have life in them of Jesus Christ. that gives you life abundantly ?
It's some what like a grub that has not became a butterfly and can fly ? one could say sort of. because they refused the Gift.
How sad to be living a life of only existing not knowing who you truly are.

I have never seen a Jew treat any Arab with dignity, but only did and do wrong to them, for they are both Carnal fools. religion will not save you, even Atheist are religious in fact but just because they reject the fact does not make it so, as all they do is run around rejecting everything they want to reject because it does not suit their own ego.

There is only one way and that is through Jesus Christ.

Any clown that claims they are Politically Correct has a religion right their as they live it as their god and that's a fact ! just like Communism it's the same god idolised that must be obeyed or else the zealots want to have a field day and string anyone up. and such bastards claim it's Christians that do his, well it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, but they reject him as they surly don't want him in their life's that's clear, they are just like the thief on the cross who rejects Jesus.

I don't ever make a judgment based on one or two anecdotal examples. That is not good practice. In many areas of life, one can quote this person or that person but no reliable research is made on two people saying this or that. For your two I can quote a hundred who do the opposite because I am widely read.
 
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In the 1930s, and WWII, the U.S. officially turned it's back on Jews. Precisely when we grew into the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world.
No, they didn't. it was their involvement in WW2 that brought the war to an end which meant that it brought to an end the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis and so many of them emigrated to the USA and helped the country to become great.
 
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No, they didn't. it was their involvement in WW2 that brought the war to an end which meant that it brought to an end the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis and so many of them emigrated to the USA and helped the country to become great.
Wrong!! When the ship St. Louis with 1000 refugees attempting to escape the German death camps, the US turned them away, and wouldn't allow them to land. So they went to Canada, where the Liberal government also refused refuge, leaving the only option, to return them to the death camps. Great work USA and Canada!
 
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The government of Israel has some bad policies.