The real Jesus

[Wrangler]

You are not aware that there is a Spirit?
Such as the Holy Spirit? Such as "God is A Spirit".
Do you think your body is the real you

Jesus was resurrected as a Spirit or as a body?

SOUL = BODY + SPIRIT.

It is not my Spirit that lives after death and resurrection but the Spirit of God through his blessed Son, our lord.

 

[Wrangler]

When Jesus's body was about to die on The Cross

Scripture does not parse his body with him. Jesus died is what Scripture tells us. Do you deny this?

 

[Wrangler]

He said to the dying Thief...."TODAY, you will be with ME, in Paradise"....YET, the body of Christ was resurrected later.
So, who is the "ME", that Jesus is talking about

I think we discussed this before.

Misplaced comma. If I tell you today that we will have dinner tomorrow, it does not mean we are eating dinner today.

 

[Jack]

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Amen! Jesus is God.

 

[Wrangler]

Death is not the end of life. Haven't you heard about Jesus?

Death, by definition, is the end of life. Haven’t you heard that:

1. God resurrects his children into a glorified body; and
2. Paul said it is not I who lives but Christ who lives in me; and
3. Born again means born anew as Christ is the 1st born of all creation?

 

[Taken]

Right. That God is the Father, not Jesus, is OT & NT knowledge. 'For us, there is one God, the Father.' 1 COR 8:6

Yes, one God...
Numerous Names, Titles, Descriptions...
Wisdom revealed...in a handy book called revel-ations!

Revelations 1:
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
[2] Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Rev 4
[8] And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
Rev.11
[17] Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev.15
[3] And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Rev.16
[7] And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
Rev.21
[22] And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Lord Son, God Father, Almighty Christ
Holy, Holy, Holy, was, is and is.

The problem is, you are starting with your doctrine - not found anywhere in Scripture - and trying to impose it onto text that does not support it. So, you have to resort to reading into the text your doctrine. There is simply is no verse like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the F, S & HS who are coequal, coeternal and cosubstantial - and if you do not believe this, you cannot be saved but are damned to hell forever.

The Lord God Almighty ... Word, Will, Power is ONE.

This is clarified in 1 Corinthians 15:27 For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.”[a] (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.)

Your word, will, power is one, that you have give by your own authority, your power, to call yourself “Wrangler”, to write your words out of your mouth, from your own willful thoughts.
By your mindful LOGIC, that would make you 3 persons..!!!!

Should you say, Oh my aching soul, Oh my aching spirit, Oh my aching back .... You are speaking of 3 completely different things...does that make you 3 persons?

Are you aware of those 3 things are a NATURAL man.
Body of Dust.
Soul of Gods Breath.
Spirit of mans Truth.

Are you aware of those 3 things God has Offered to MAKE SPIRITUAL?
Body of Dust, transformed from must DIE, to Forever Living.
Soul of Gods Breath, restored from not good, back to Good Forever.
Spirit of mans Truth, cut off, and given a new Truth, Gods Truth, a new spirit from Gods Seed?

Do you see how Scripture treats God as a separate being from Christ?

Do you see how YOU, call yourself Wrangler on this forum, yet Other people only know you by Other names?

There is no reason to make this exception IF Jesus were God.

Seriously? God IS INVISIBLE!
Did you miss the entire OT, and frustrations of men having VISIONS from God and then trying to TEACH men WHO could NOT SEE God?
The teaching men frustrated...AND WHAT?
God’s disappointment in men who could not HEAR (without seeing), and THEN SEE what was foretold Would come to pass...?
God called them “stiffnecked”. Thereafter God PROMISED He would send “something” men could SEE...ta da....WHAT did God Promise to send, and then did send from where?
God Foretold...and then SENT His Word forth out of His mouth, in a A particular BODY God PREPARED, and that BODY was explicitly, in the LIKENESS...
AS A JEWISH man, and God Gave Him a Name, Titles, Descriptions.

I do not know, what all names, titles, descriptions YOU have given yourself, but I am quite confident you are not 3 persons.
I am quite confident when your word comes forth out of your mouth, it is you, one man, acting under your own word, will, power, authority, and when you say, “I, me, mine” you are possessively speaking for your own word, will, power, authority.

So when your Banker says to you, “Good morning Mr. _____ and a person on this forum says to you, “Wrangler”....
By your logic, you are two distinct persons.

 

[Taken]

Death, by definition, is the end of life. Haven’t you heard that:

1. God resurrects his children into a glorified body; and
2. Paul said it is not I who lives but Christ who lives in me; and
3. Born again means born anew as Christ is the 1st born of all creation?

Death is the END of Physical LIFE.
...^ carnal understanding.

Death is ALSO “separation” from God, WHO IS LIFE.
(Even applies when a man IS physically ALIVE.)
...^ spiritual understanding.

Do you KNOW, WHEN God converts a man...
(Forgives, saves his soul, quickens his spirit, raises in glory)...
He is Converting A physical ALIVE man who is Spiritually Dead?

Eph 2:
[1] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

God does not Save, Quicken, the Converted.
He Saves, Quickens, Converts...the Spiritually Dead.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, one God...
Numerous Names

No. Gods name is unique, YHWH, and his relationship to us is unique, Father.

 

[Wrangler]

Death is the END of Physical LIFE.

No dictionary qualifies that death is the end of life, period.

Without complete and total death, Christs complete and total death followed by resurrection by God has no meaning for us - who face complete and total death.

 

[ChristisGod]

Death, by definition, is the end of life. Haven’t you heard that:

1. God resurrects his children into a glorified body; and
2. Paul said it is not I who lives but Christ who lives in me; and
3. Born again means born anew as Christ is the 1st born of all creation?

Do you affirm Jesus has a real tangible human body in heaven right now ? yes or no

 

[Keiw]

Have you read John 1?

John 1 The Word was God.
The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

He was not called Ho Theos in the last line at John 1:1,( the true God was called that in the second line. = The God

 

[Keiw]

So you're saying Jesus is a false god.

No you are in your twisted reasonings.

 

[Keiw]

So you're comparing Jesus with Satan?

They are both called Theos. Fact--God did it all through Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1Cor 8:5-6-- do you understand english?

 

[Taken]

Death, by definition, is the end of life. Haven’t you heard that:

1. God resurrects his children into a glorified body; and
2. Paul said it is not I who lives but Christ who lives in me; and
3. Born again means born anew as Christ is the 1st born of all creation?

Death is the END of Physical LIFE.
...^ carnal understanding.

Death is ALSO “separation” from God, WHO IS LIFE.
(Even applies when a man IS physically ALIVE.)
...^ spiritual understanding.

Do you KNOW, WHEN God converts a man...
(Forgives, saves his soul, quickens his spirit, raises in glory)...
He is Converting A physical ALIVE man who is Spiritually Dead?

eph 2:
[1] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;