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Discussion in 'Christian Debate Forum' started by TLIG, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. TLIG

    TLIG Member

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    WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

    You pick:

    A.
    Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
    and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    B.
    All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
    This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
    That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
    the process of being born on earth and all that it curtails.
     
  2. Miss Hepburn

    Miss Hepburn Well-Known Member

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    Did you mean and all that it 'entails'? I don't have an opinion on this...should
    be an interesting topic tho! Welcome to the forum.
    :)
     
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  3. TLIG

    TLIG Member

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    WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

    You pick:

    A.
    Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
    and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    B.
    All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
    This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
    That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
    the process of being born on earth and all that it takes to complete it.
     
  4. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    1. Scripture cannot be a lie. Salvation (eternal life) is the gift of God.

    2. Exactly what are you trying to prove? There are two conditions for salvation.
     
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  5. TLIG

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    Are you offended that the truth may not be that to which you believe?

    Taking it out on me will not do you any good.
     
  6. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    No I am offended at your inane OP. Make you point if you have one.
     
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  7. TLIG

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    Who are you to judge anything I do or say?
     
  8. bbyrd009

    bbyrd009 Groper

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    how do you offend a Christian?
     
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    Dave L Well-Known Member

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    “According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;” (Ephesians 1:4–7)

    “and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.” (Revelation 13:8)
     
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  10. TLIG

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    WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

    You pick:

    A.
    Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
    and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    B.
    All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
    This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
    That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
    the process of being born on earth and all that it curtails.
     
  11. TLIG

    TLIG Member

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    Come out in the open where we all can see...

    Pick either A or B

    for they both cannot be a lie.
     
  12. TLIG

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    Tell them that what they are doing is a sin.

    Tell them that they can cease from all sin.

    Prove in truth that what they believe is not the truth.

    Shall I go on?
     
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    Hmmmm......So we are to decide which one is a lie and are choices are Scripture or the statement that you created in your own mind??

    Was no one saved BEFORE the birth of Christ?

    Curious Mary
     
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  14. TLIG

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    So which is it you believe?

    A or B.
     
  15. TLIG

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    Are you all in doubt as to which is the truth?

    No one has yet to commit to either on on this thread.

    WHY?
     
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    ah, maybe that is why
     
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  17. TLIG

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    You are fortunate you are not in the main land us
    because civil war is coming for them.
     
  18. bbyrd009

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    ok ty
     
  19. "ByGrace"

    "ByGrace" Well-Known Member

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    Just another of those "new" people who join this Site and start right out of the gate by being ignorant and rude , and add arrogant to that!
    They come....and they go... :rolleyes:
     
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    "ByGrace" Well-Known Member

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    Because you sound like a rude, arrogant, know-it-all.
     
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