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stunnedbygrace

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You're trying to relate apples and oranges, Sun becoming 7 times brighter verses the sin becoming black. The moon becoming blood verses the moon becoming brighter. They simply don't connect or relate.

Yes, my thought was along the same lines when I pulled up the verse.
It’s sort of like when people say the outer darkness is the lake of fire. Doesn’t compute.
 

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Hmm…if the moon turned dark red in color, it WOULD be darkened, comparatively.

Sure but the prophecies say light ceases to exist from light sources so when the sun stops shining, will the moon appear dark red or so dark it won't be seen?

Joe_2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Act_2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Rev_6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;


How can red be seen? Blood is black.
 

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Sure but the prophecies say light ceases to exist from light sources so when the sun stops shining, will the moon appear dark red or so dark it won't be seen?

Joe_2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Act_2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:


Rev_6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;


How can red be seen? Blood is black.

Hmmm…maybe we can piece it all together or even just some of it. I’ll see if I can gather pertinent verses but, alas, I have to go for a few hours then before I will be back.

The only way I know is to look at all the verses and passages and see if God helps us to see anything we never did before about it.

Genesis 1:14 - And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Genesis 1:16 - And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Job 9:7 - Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.

Isaiah 13:10 - For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Isaiah 30:26 - Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

Jeremiah 10:2 - Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Ezekiel 32:7 - And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.

Zech 14:6
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

Joel 2:31 isn’t in my list but you’ve listed it above and it goes here.

Matthew 24:29 - Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Acts 2:20 - The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Rev 8:12 Then the fourth angel blew his trumpet, and one-third of the sun was struck, and one-third of the moon, and one-third of the stars, and they became dark. And one-third of the day was dark, and also one-third of the night.

Revelation 16:8-10 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.”

Revelation 22:5 - And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 
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The first thing I see is that one verse says before that great and terrible day and the other says immediately after the tribulation of those days. Sort of gives me a bearing of a…timeline. But, gotta go. I’ll be back to hear what you guys might see!
I don’t want to go. Want to stay here. :(
 

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The real, prophesied blood red moon will happen when the Lord instigates a Coronal Mass Ejection; an explosion on the suns surface. Isaiah 30:26a.
The superheated mass of hydrogen plasma sent out will strike the moon and cause a thermolumiscient reaction.

This sudden and terrifying event will change the world, it will be the Lord's Day of vengeance and wrath, the Sixth Seal disaster.
No.

There will be no solar flares.

Has never happened.

Never will happen.

Can't happen.

Fantasy.

All fantasy.

Science Fiction.
 

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That the Lord will use the sun, is plainly prophesied,
Hog manure.

There is NO such prophecy whatsoever.

And when Christ returns, it will do a bit more than change the world.

The world will be utterly destroyed down to its most basic elements. 2 Peter 3:10

God is not the sun.
 
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Still haven’t left yet but I edited to add verse 10 to a revelation verse in the list I posted because it’s notable that the sun will burn hotter sometime before it darkens.
When I return I might alter the order of the verses in the list to a loose timeframe when it seems apparent one probably is before or after another in temporal time…
 
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Hmmm…maybe we can piece it all together or even just some of it. I’ll see if I can gather pertinent verses but, alas, I have to go for a few hours then before I will be back.


The only verses that are important are the ones that prophecy what will happen to the sun and moon at the day of the lord/second coming. They all say the sun will stop shining....so naturally the moon will also go dark because it reflects the light of the sun rather than have it's own light.

The issue is what does it mean for the moon to "turn into blood"?


Blood can be 4 different colors, blue (in body), red (in and out of the body, lasts a short time), brown (outside of body), black/dark brown (outside of body)

Contextually Rev 6:12 has the sun going dark, so the moon would go dark too because without the sun we could not see the moon. If the sun goes dark, you could not see a red moon. So, the moon will be as dark as the sun and that is because at the second coming there is darkness:


Amos 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?



Rev:6:12: And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;


It is a fact that blood turns brownish, to very dark in color after it begins to dry. The subject here is that the sun shall go dark. Since the moon simply reflects the suns light, when the sun darkens so does the moon. To say something was the color of blood means to say it was dark not that it was red.
 

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Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Note that the word "before" means at that moment not before as in previous in time. It should be understood as "at" rather than "before" to end any confusion.

06440 paniym {paw-neem'} pl. (but always as sing.) of an unused
noun [paneh{paw-neh'}

1) face
1a) face, faces
1b) presence, person
1c) face (of seraphim or cherubim)
1d) face (of animals)
1e) face, surface (of ground)
1f) as adv of loc/temp
1f1) before and behind, toward, in front of, forward, formerly,
from beforetime, before
1g) with prep
1g1) in front of, before, to the front of, in the presence of,
in the face of, at the face or front of, from the presence of,
from before, from before the face of

This is like when a person would come before a judge for a matter. Which means that he is there at that moment facing the judge.

So, the verse says these things happen at the Lords day, and not "before" in the Lords day as it seems to imply.
 

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Joel:3:13:
Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. (KJV)
Joel:3:14:
Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. (KJV)
Joel:3:15:
The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. (KJV)


The subject is the Lord's day and how near it is, and then it proceeds to tell us of that day. Also take note that all stars stop shining. It's not just our star/sun. The entire universe will have no light. No light means no redness will be seen so rule out a "blood moon" and any idea of a lunar eclipse.


Zephaniah 1:14
The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
Zephaniah 1:15
That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

The subject is the Lord's day and how near it is, and then it proceeds to tell us of that dark, dark day.

Is:13:9:
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. (KJV)
Is:13:10:
For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. (KJV)

Not only our sun, but all suns in the heavens will stop shining!

The subject is the Lord's day and how near it is, and then it proceeds to tell us of that day.


Joe_2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

Joe_3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

Again, all suns will stop shining.

This is a complete darkening of the sun and moon, not a partial darkening as a third but totally darkened and not showing any light. This is not a darkness due to something such as "smoke" blocking the light.


Amos 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
Amos 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
Amos 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?


Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


It was dark during the day when Christ died, and it shall be dark again when he returns.

A red moon has no scriptural importance, sorry. I know its exciting to hear of red moons, and how they might signify special meanings and might indicate the endtimes are now or soon....but they don't :(


The moon is not going to be red when Christ returns. It will be completely dark as all stars and suns everywhere shall be.
 

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Oohhh, I didn’t have Rev 8:12 on my list! Added it. Going hunting for more. :)

Also added an odd verse from Zecheriah…

okay, that’s all I found. I’m going to work with those.
 
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Hmmm…maybe we can piece it all together or even just some of it. I’ll see if I can gather pertinent verses but, alas, I have to go for a few hours then before I will be back.

The only way I know is to look at all the verses and passages and see if God helps us to see anything we never did before about it.

Genesis 1:14 - And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Genesis 1:16 - And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Job 9:7 - Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.

Isaiah 13:10 - For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Isaiah 30:26 - Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

Jeremiah 10:2 - Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Ezekiel 32:7 - And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.

Zech 14:6
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

Joel 2:31 isn’t in my list but you’ve listed it above and it goes here.

Matthew 24:29 - Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Acts 2:20 - The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Rev 8:12 Then the fourth angel blew his trumpet, and one-third of the sun was struck, and one-third of the moon, and one-third of the stars, and they became dark. And one-third of the day was dark, and also one-third of the night.

Revelation 16:8-10 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.”

Revelation 22:5 - And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

The following is just my personal worksheet. Don’t read it. Trust me, it can’t possibly help you, though it helps me. The reason I did it was to figure out why ewq was arguing the moon had to be black and NOT blood red.
Just skip clear to the bottom where I found the answer. I will put it in bold type.

God made two great lights, the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night and He said, let them be for signs…don’t be dismayed at the signs of heaven as the heathen are…He said to Pharoah/the king of Egypt, When I put you out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give her light…
Scream in terror, for the day of the Lord has arrived—
the time for the Almighty to destroy. Every arm is paralyzed with fear. Every heart melts, and people are terrified. Pangs of anguish grip them, like those of a woman in labor. They look helplessly at one another, their faces aflame with fear. For see, the day of the Lord is coming— the terrible day of his fury and fierce anger. The land will be made desolate, and all the sinners destroyed with it. The heavens will be black above them; the stars will give no light. The sun will be dark when it rises, and the moon will provide no light…
The earth will move from its place…when I display My wrath…in the day of My fierce anger…
And I will cause wonders in the heavens and on the earth—blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun will become dark, and the moon will turn blood red before that great and terrible day of the Lord arrives. But everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, for some on Mount Zion in Jerusalem will escape, Just as the Lord has said. These will be among the survivors whom the Lord has called…
Immediately after the anguish of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will give no light,the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens…
And I will cause wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below—
blood and fire and clouds of smoke.
20 The sun will become dark,
and the moon will turn blood red
before that great and glorious day of the Lord arrives.
21 But everyone who calls on the name of the Lord
will be saved
Then the fourth angel blew his trumpet, and one-third of the sun was struck, and one-third of the moon, and one-third of the stars, and they became dark. And one-third of the day was dark, and also one-third of the night.
And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.”

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The sun will become dark, and the moon will turn blood red before that great and terrible day of the Lord arrives.
Then the fourth angel blew his trumpet, and one-third of the sun was struck, and one-third of the moon, and one-third of the stars, and they became dark. And one-third of the day was dark, and also one-third of the night.


Immediately after the anguish of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will give no light,the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens…

I did a more complete timeline of all the verses but it’s not necessary to post to show the answer. One verse is earlier and the other is later.
 

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20 The sun will become dark,
and the moon will turn blood red


No manuscript has the word "red" in that verse.

Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:


Blood can be red, but also multiple other colors including black. Dark sun means it's black and proves a dark/black moon which is the color of blood.