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That depends on which Sabbath you mean.....there is more than one.Well Aunty, when the Creator makes the day for you, and blesses and makes it holy and sets it aside, shouldnt it be a even a smidgen of importance for you......
Hey Barney…
Jesus did what His Father did. He gave them rest.
He lifted their burdens. He healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, made the lame walk, pulling them out of the pit that they had fallen into.
He gave them faith. And those that recieved him, recieved him with gladness.
He fed them with manna from heaven and made them drink of the water of life. He clothed them in his own righteousness.
And he had mercy on us and gave us grace and forgiveness.
God created all these things from the foundation of the world. He set them in motion and then watched.
Man put his hand to it and marred it. Polluted it, with our own ways.
Jesus came to set it right. And to put us back on the right path.
If he had not come and brought us light, we would be in darkness still.
What is the seventh day? It is a day of observation. God watched while man was given rulership and dominion over the creation God had given to man. We are told to observe, we are told to watch, we are told to wait patiently upon the Lord.
Not to go out into the world seeking our own, but giving what God gave us freely to give to others.
And this is what Jesus did. God watched and Jesus did the works his father gave him to do.
To love God and to love one another.
This is our commision. This is our duty.
Now Jesus is watching to see what we will do.
We are to give others rest. We are to be the bearers of giving to others what has been freely given to us.
We are God's Sabbath, Just as Jesus is the embodiment of God's Sabbath.
A day of giving, a day of compassion, a day of healing and sharing bread and water to the thirsty and comfort to those who mourn.
This day is not an ordinary day. It is a way of life.
The day is the age in which we are living in. It is To Day.
Where is God?
He is watching.
Hugs
Sorry, but it seemed appropriate on the subject matter to draw attention to the elephant in the room.You know, Aunty, I'm pretty fond of you and I don't like using the "B" word after such a declaration BUT I just gave your post here a good read and I gotta say it's a bit disappointing.
As one who has to constantly wash mud off, I sympathize Barney…..but we have similar beginnings in the period knows as ‘the great awakening‘. Things were definitely stirring as we approached the time for Jesus to return to take his “saints” home to where he had ”prepared a place“ for them. It was a time for the devil to go into full on attack mode, but not in an obvious way…..he starts off subtle, like he did in Eden….”is it really so…? And gets people thinking along different lines…seeds of doubt are sown at a time when when that was actually necessary to free Christ’s disciples from “Babylon the great”….first, she had to be identified and it was made known in no uncertain terms that Christendom was identified with the harlot of John’s Revelation.You've made some statements here that, frankly, seem a little below my impression of your intellectual integrity. Perhaps I'm being too harsh and maybe you just haven't boned up on Adventism but you're slinging a fair bit of common (read: low) anti-Adventist mud here, which is surprising considering I've given you and your brethren comparably more of the benefit of doubt over the years. Of course, you may rest assured that that courtesy will continue.
Thank you for the link…I got a lot out of that, especially with regard to legal definitions and copyright laws….So far from such a state of things is the fact that an independent legal auditor (a reputable Roman Catholic Copyright Law attorney, no less) was employed by the church to examine her work and the result was quite the contrary to your misguided albeit adopted claim (link).
Sorry, but it seemed appropriate on the subject matter to draw attention to the elephant in the room.
We have to make sure that our teachers are not taking us down a slippery path.…mine included.
It’s not the words as much as the “fruits”, Jesus said. It’s what we do and teach, compared to what we don’t do and don’t teach…..isn’t it?
As one who has to constantly wash mud off, I sympathize Barney…..but we have similar beginnings in the period knows as ‘the great awakening‘. Things were definitely stirring as we approached the time for Jesus to return to take his “saints” home to where he had ”prepared a place“ for them. It was a time for the devil to go into full on attack mode, but not in an obvious way…..he starts off subtle, like he did in Eden….”is it really so…? And gets people thinking along different lines…seeds of doubt are sown at a time when when that was actually necessary to free Christ’s disciples from “Babylon the great”….first, she had to be identified and it was made known in no uncertain terms that Christendom was identified with the harlot of John’s Revelation.
That went down as well as Jesus‘ teachings did with the Pharisees and Sadducees.
The command from God was to “get out of her my people”….(Rev 18:4-5) so it was time to liberate his people from slavery to “Babylon the great” and educate them according to the true teachings of his son. Teachings that has been terribly corrupted by the devil’s counterfeit “weeds”.
The devil knew this was going to happen, and as soon as these stirrings began, he knew that his counterfeit was no longer convincing…..SDA’s we’re among the first to stir in the 1800’s. And the groundswell started another revolution of sorts….rather than trying to prop up the old system, based on the faulty foundation laid by the RCC, they began to separate from mainstream “Christianity” and expose its lies, just as Jesus did with Judaism.
We have similar roots but we are different plants. I appreciate your position, and the sincerity with which you uphold it, but I disagree with it purely on scriptural grounds.
Thank you for the link…I got a lot out of that, especially with regard to legal definitions and copyright laws….
But is that what exonerates EGW? It found that she had borrowed ideas from many other writers but not so as to be legally prosecuted by law. She flew under that radar. So we are back to square one IMO.
JW’s also quote from other source material, but always list the source material back to its author…..especially is this important when laws governing copyright are somewhat complicated as your link suggested.
I will always back anyone who wants to have a day of rest in their week to reflect on spiritual things, but what I cannot back is those who say it is required to observe the Sabbath as a condition of membership in a church. Do you see where I am coming from? There is no law for Gentiles to observe a weekly Sabbath….but there is no law for Jews that says they can’t. There is no law for it or against it, so it’s up to the individual, not the church, to choose to observe the Sabbath or not. No one breaks any law of God either way. Same with circumcision…..it’s now a personal choice.
Hi Barney,I'm afraid that, in the final analysis, God's Sabbath has to be what God says it is—not whatever our presumably sanctified imaginations or steams of consciousness desire it to be, Zig.
Hugs
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Hi Barney,
What does God say it is?
Hugs
Go away self deluded accuser of the brethren............AGREED!
Wherein then, is YOUR boasting? It is included/PROJECTED! On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of BOASTING AND BRAGGING OF OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS BY OWN WORKS OF PRIDE AND SHOW-OFF, AND JUDGEMENT AND DENOUNCEMENT AND CONDEMNATION OF THOSE NOT SO HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS AND GOOD ACCORDING TO, YOU, THE, LAW-UNTO-YOURSELF.
For we not up to your standard, who maintain we are justified IN CHRIST by faith apart from our ever sub-standard, failure, of observance of The Law OF GOD (Romans 3:27-28), we ADMIT AND PLEAD GUILTY OF OUR IDOLATRY, and of OUR UNBELIEF IN CHRIST'S FINISHED WORK, AND RELIANCE ON OUR OWN EXCELLENCE INSTEAD.
You shouldn't quote texts to confuse people about their duty to God. That's going to be an awful thing to have to answer for.
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You should repent from mocking God's Word and those who believe His words.
That will be a NIGHTMARE when you stand before HIM!
5Hear the word of the Lord,
You who tremble at His word:
“Your brethren who hated you,
Who cast you out for My name’s sake, said,
‘Let the Lord be glorified,
That we may see your joy.’
But they shall be ashamed.”
Barney,"I know you are but what am I?"
That's all you got?
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Phew,good thing the Sabbath is not the Mosaic law.
You said...That doesn't address my observation. You merely repeated your prior post.
Barney,
i love you as my Brother in Christ.
As such i would never lie to you, misinform you or discourage you from loving the LORD Jesus Christ.
i also would never try to change the day on which you gather for fellowship in Christ.
All this little David desires for you, is for you to SEE that JESUS supercedes the law.
That no one is made righteous by the law (including saturday sabbath).
That God implemented a death penalty for 'working on His Rest'.
JESUS is the REST that no one can work on = John 3:16-18 , Ephesians ch2 , Romans , Galatians , Hebrews
Have a Blessed week in the LORD my Brother
My post isn't sarcastic. It's referring to scripture while using a posting style that sarcastic Anti-Sabbatarians are familiar with.This issue has been so masterfully clouded by the devil that we have people leaving positive reactions to sarcastic statements that are opposed to their views.
It is amazing.
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